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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoe Scum is now trying to separate conservative from right wing
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Sorry - I'm not buying that shit.
I don't know which is worse - this or the Birther shit - all lies all the time
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Republicans have been silent.
malaise
(269,200 posts)They are complicit
no_hypocrisy
(46,215 posts)Or the end of Animal Farm where you couldn't tell the men from the pigs.
malaise
(269,200 posts)Cannot be undone
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)watch lyle Lovett head beady eyes Scab or Mika mouse. I watch Chris Cuomo since before the coup.
malaise
(269,200 posts)walking - Cuomo is better
wishstar
(5,272 posts)What is depressing is that the Trump cabal of extremists backed by billionaire Mercers who are owners of Breitbart, march in lockstep with VP Pence on their destructive agenda for America.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The argument would carry weight if the Republicans in Congress were actually working to stop Trump, but instead they just make excuses for him (at best), and support his crap.
malaise
(269,200 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Conservatism used to mean something. Republicanism used to mean something. Until the GOP sold its soul for money and racism.
The Republican Party has purged itself of all moderate Republicans after the rise of the Tea Party. Which means, every Republican that is left passed their "batshit" litmus-test and is now complicit in the reshaping of their party.
The Tea Party destroyed the little bit of good that was still left inside the GOP, even after their embrace of robber-baron capitalism and the Southern Strategy.
And Trump has destroyed the GOP for good. They have all sold their souls for the sake of power.
As Mitch McConnel said: Trump's policies and the republican policies are the same.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)which, even though strongly acted on by environment, tends to lead to conservative political orientation.
You are sadly right that the "traditional" conservatism developed in the middle of last century is gone from the Republican Party. Right-wing extremist leaders have purged almost all who believe in protecting what has worked well in favor of installing extremists and mountebanks who will cooperate in destroying what has worked well. But this started before the Kochs created the tea party movement out of a largely clueless unhappiness among conservatives--over exactly what they and those like them were doing. (Scheming bastards!)
Interestingly, conservatism doesn't have a centuries-old intellectual basis and only coalesced as an actual political orientation in the U.S. as a "gut"reaction to the New Deal era and growing cold war. Unwilling and/or unable to differentiate between the inherently Constitution-supporting (anti-authoritarian!) liberalism of New Deal leaders and the authoritarian absolutism characteristic of far left movements, they came together over fears that we were developing into a Russia-style authoritarian state.
Then and since, many have tried to give this huge political movement a desperately needed basis in intellect--which notably would provide at least some of the stability of principle liberals are blessed with--but as we can see, authoritarian leaders who've learned to tap into the "gut" feelings and urge to follow of mostly authoritarian-leaning conservatives have been leading half a nation just about any direction they want.
But innate conservatism in various types, mixtures and strengths, traditional/temporal, social/religious, economic/libertarian, is very alive and currently energized and will always be a big part of us.
Progressive dog
(6,921 posts)there may be a handful of conservatives who like to pat themselves on the back for occasionally and temporarily disagreeing with the right wing.
Vinca
(50,313 posts)But . . . news flash for Joe . . . you bought it and now you own it.
malaise
(269,200 posts)fugging slow? We knew that ages ago
duncang
(1,907 posts)Who would almost pee in his pants with delight when something came out on Hillary. Joe the morning joke went for kissing dipshit butt every chance he got.