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About 40% to 50% of the people at the time supported the American Revolution (Original Post) edhopper Mar 2017 OP
Thank you for the history lesson. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2017 #1
Respectfully, how is that calculated? PJMcK Mar 2017 #2
one place I read edhopper Mar 2017 #10
I read 1/3 favored the Blue Coats, 1/3 favored the Red Coats, and 1/3 were waiting to side with ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #3
Southern Ontario was largely settled by loyalists. roamer65 Mar 2017 #6
If DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #7
And slavery would have ended edhopper Mar 2017 #12
That's the problem with counterfactuals. You change one fact, you change em all. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #13
True that /nt edhopper Mar 2017 #15
I believe we get past him. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #17
I would like a parliamentary system too, but you can blame my ancestors for this system. Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2017 #16
A second war with Britain would have happened around 1833 or so. roamer65 Mar 2017 #18
My reading is that edhopper Mar 2017 #9
What do you think George Washington would make of Thump? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #11
Everything edhopper Mar 2017 #14
What does support mean? HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #4
No, I didn't say fight for edhopper Mar 2017 #8
One thing about the British is that they had Turbineguy Mar 2017 #5

edhopper

(33,594 posts)
10. one place I read
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:42 PM
Mar 2017
Historian Robert Calhoon said the consensus of historians is that between 40 and 45 percent of the white population in the Thirteen Colonies supported the Patriots' cause, between 15 and 20% supported the Loyalists, and the remainder were neutral or kept a low profile.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_(American_Revolution)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. I read 1/3 favored the Blue Coats, 1/3 favored the Red Coats, and 1/3 were waiting to side with ...
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:13 PM
Mar 2017

I read 1/3 favored the Blue Coats, 1/3 favored the Red Coats, and 1/3 were waiting to side with the winners.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
6. Southern Ontario was largely settled by loyalists.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:28 PM
Mar 2017

Many of the 1/3 left for what is now Eastern Canada...Ontario, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and PEI.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. If
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:34 PM
Mar 2017

If we lost the Revolutionary War we would never have Thump.

We likely would have got our independence and had a parliamentary system like Great Britain.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. That's the problem with counterfactuals. You change one fact, you change em all.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:46 PM
Mar 2017

We would never have become a superpower. We had a hell of a ride. God willing we will get past Thump. If not, I will mourn the loss of the America I knew and loved.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. I believe we get past him.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:53 PM
Mar 2017

I believe the best thing we did is not allow him to get comfortable, is not allow him to get his footing. I am a huge boxing fan. I remember when Joe Frazier beat my idol, Muhammad Ali, in their first fight he never let him get comfortable. He took it to him.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
16. I would like a parliamentary system too, but you can blame my ancestors for this system.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:53 PM
Mar 2017

I found 14 Revolutionary War soldier ancestors when I researched my family tree years ago!

Well, one of them was a Hessian soldier (fighting for King George) that decided to stay here and another one was a loyalist who was hanged for conspiring with the British and the American Indians. He also printed counterfeit money in an effort to make the American currency worthless. He was in his 60's! His wife had descended from royalty in England, so maybe that played a role in his loyalty to King George? Historical accounts indicated that many people were appalled by his hanging because he wasn't even given a trial. A sheriff and his men aligned with the rebels decided his guilt on the spot and hanged him from a tree.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
18. A second war with Britain would have happened around 1833 or so.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 09:29 PM
Mar 2017

There was no way the South was going to give up slavery without a war. The war would have been in the slave states.

edhopper

(33,594 posts)
14. Everything
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:48 PM
Mar 2017

he fought to secure this country against.

It is important, likewise, that the habits of thinking in a free Country should inspire caution in those entrusted with its administration, to confine themselves within their respective Constitutional spheres; avoiding in the exercise of the Powers of one department to encroach upon another. The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus to create whatever the form of government, a real despotism. A just estimate of that love of power, and proneness to abuse it, which predominates in the human heart is sufficient to satisfy us of the truth of this position.


G. Washington, Farewell address.
 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
4. What does support mean?
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:19 PM
Mar 2017

Because if you mean actively, you are off by a factor of 10.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/myths-of-the-american-revolution-10941835/

The Continental Army was about 100k out of 2M, 5%, and they had to be very very aggressively and creatively recruited.

Turbineguy

(37,355 posts)
5. One thing about the British is that they had
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:25 PM
Mar 2017

a functioning government with a history. The American Revolution was a dark horse.

Now the U.S. government is still mostly functioning, except where the republicans have managed to fuck things up.

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