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CitizenZero

(535 posts) Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:40 AM Mar 2017

Russians Under Survelliance?

Regarding the Wire Tap allegations: Is it possible that some element in the U.S. Government had Russians like Sergey Kislyak under surveillance and that a Russian Agent contacted actors in the Trump Campaign via phone? By which I mean, maybe Russian Agents were being observed and these Russians made contact with the Trump Campaign. Might this explain the Wire Tap allegations?

If so, Trump was not under surveillance, but a Russian that contacted him or his People was. So, there might have been a legitimate investigation that had recorded something out of Trump Tower. I realize this is a remote possibility, but it is something I have not seen mentioned. It is my understanding that our Intelligence Services regularly have Russians under observation.

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Russians Under Survelliance? (Original Post) CitizenZero Mar 2017 OP

Not remote triron Mar 2017 #1

That is what I have been thinking, they wire tap Russians and find contacts with Trumpsters. They doc03 Mar 2017 #2

Congress CitizenZero Mar 2017 #3

You almost got it. Intelligence monitors Russians but when they speak to an American... KittyWampus Mar 2017 #4

OK CitizenZero Mar 2017 #5

I think there is room for interpretation sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #6

Here you go underthematrix Mar 2017 #7

And this just came out today that Trump met with Russian underthematrix Mar 2017 #8

Yes. There's def been reporting they have recording of Russians talking among themselves about the bettyellen Mar 2017 #9

triron

(22,007 posts)

1. Not remote

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:45 AM

Mar 2017

doc03

(35,354 posts)

2. That is what I have been thinking, they wire tap Russians and find contacts with Trumpsters. They

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:48 AM

Mar 2017

have been saying all along the Russian Ambassador was bugged.

CitizenZero

(535 posts)

3. Congress

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:52 AM

Mar 2017

I am thinking of sending an e-mail or make a phone call to my Congressman about this. I am kind of wondering why no one has really mentioned this sort of possibility in the media or elsewhere. It might explain a lot if it were true.

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)

4. You almost got it. Intelligence monitors Russians but when they speak to an American...

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:54 AM

Mar 2017

they have to go through a fairly rigorous process (FISA Warrant) to get permission to continue listening, record and store the information.

CitizenZero

(535 posts)

5. OK

Reply to KittyWampus (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:58 AM

Mar 2017

I did not know that. I thought that if one person (Russian) was listened to, it was legit to record both sides of any phone or electronic communication. Thanks for the info.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)

6. I think there is room for interpretation

Reply to KittyWampus (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:22 AM

Mar 2017

Louise Mensch (yes, I know she is British) is saying that once an American starts talking to someone who is under a FISA warrant, you do NOT have to stop listening like some are saying. It makes sense to me. Wiki, also not the best source.. says that if information is obtained on a US citizen committing a crime, they have to get a warrant within 72 hours to keep the info longer than that.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)

7. Here you go

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:37 AM

Mar 2017

Link to tweet

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)

8. And this just came out today that Trump met with Russian

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:44 AM

Mar 2017

ambassador https://thinkprogress.org/trump-personally-met-with-russian-ambassador-during-campaign-cc59ae305032#.f8w2akvgs

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)

9. Yes. There's def been reporting they have recording of Russians talking among themselves about the

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:48 AM

Mar 2017

Campaign and I'm guessing they might have gotten FISAs on some Americans working w Trump from that... but I don't know why Trump thinks it was his phone and not his associates.

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