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sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:59 AM Mar 2017

Alabama has figured out a way to avoid issuing gay marriage licenses.

They're not going to issue any licenses at all.

Now if this law passes, you have to get a contract and pay to get the contract recorded. You get married in another state, you have to get the marriage recorded in the same way. Double expense. I have no idea how this would affect people moving to this state after marriage, but I'm guessing they would also have to go to the courthouse and record that they are married.

I hope they get sued immediately. This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard of. Nothing but a money making scheme for attorneys and the courts, not to mention a kettle of worms being opened up that will affect everything from insurance laws to child custody issues.

It passed the senate 23-3. Stupid republicans.


http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/03/alabama_senate_approves_replac.html

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Alabama has figured out a way to avoid issuing gay marriage licenses. (Original Post) sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 OP
Will Alabama ever get with the times? RoadhogRidesAgain Mar 2017 #1
No. sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #3
Are you living in AL, Sarah? brer cat Mar 2017 #5
I live in the reddest county in Al sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #6
I get the feeling from living around them brer cat Mar 2017 #7
Some co-workers moved to Huntsville, and my democratic MIL lives in Tuscaloosa. haele Mar 2017 #12
Adding Alabama to my fuckit list. democratisphere Mar 2017 #2
The contortions haters are willing to endure just to practice their hate. Solly Mack Mar 2017 #4
That's a year old article. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #8
They must have put the wrong date. sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #10
That article is nearly a year old. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #15
I see the mistake now, thanks sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #16
Stock forms will develop pretty quickly, so I doubt attorneys will be involved much Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #17
Would not getting one of those contracts, safeinOhio Mar 2017 #9
You don't plan on divorce though sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #11
Just looking to see how it might backfire on them. safeinOhio Mar 2017 #14
Now what will brothers and sisters do lame54 Mar 2017 #13

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
3. No.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:06 AM
Mar 2017

Too many fancy ideas gets you star struck. My dad used to say I was blinded by the big city lights. He was talking about a "city" that practically threw a party when we got a Wal-mart with a grocery store. Blinded. Ridiculous.

brer cat

(24,579 posts)
5. Are you living in AL, Sarah?
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:32 AM
Mar 2017

I live in a very red part of GA, but we have a lot of blue and purple around the state. I never hear much about liberal areas of AL although there must be some. From your clear "No" I assume there isn't enough to hold out much hope for change.

This attempt to avoid issuing same-sex licenses is pure bs, and I hope it is challenged and stopped quickly. If not, it may be contagious!



sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
6. I live in the reddest county in Al
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 02:15 AM
Mar 2017

The county Birmingham is in is blue and there is a blue strip about the level of Montgomery to Selma. That is it.

I hope so too. These people don't think about what they're doing to themselves in order to punish others for being different.

brer cat

(24,579 posts)
7. I get the feeling from living around them
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 02:28 AM
Mar 2017

that those astute enough to realize they are hurting themselves consider it worthwhile since the "other" is punished more. Strange values these folks have.

haele

(12,661 posts)
12. Some co-workers moved to Huntsville, and my democratic MIL lives in Tuscaloosa.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:43 AM
Mar 2017

They both say Huntsville and Tuscaloosa are more blue-violet in some areas and purple in most.
My MIL says the problem is that most red county voters like living in a third-world dictatorship - so long as the Rich Folks on the Hill makes sure everyone stays in their place - and leave the white folks and their white clan-centric churches alone.

For the record, my MIL is estranged from her three sisters and her nephews as they all decided they would buy some conjoining hill properties out in the boonies and create their own evangelical church-based community between the nine (now twelve) families - whether or not the sisters actually agreed with the increasing strictures of the religion. While they aren't "Klan" - one of the families includes a mixed marriage, and they've allowed a few select outsiders to settle in the area and join their church - they certainly are "clan".
And the boys have also separated ties with my MIL's two nieces - and while she was alive, their own grandmother - because the aforementioned ladies including my MIL have a bad habit of pointing out logical fallacies and questioning ridiculous statements "of fact". And actually enjoying science.

Haele

Solly Mack

(90,775 posts)
4. The contortions haters are willing to endure just to practice their hate.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:14 AM
Mar 2017

Damn.

No low is too low. No stupid is too stupid.

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
15. That article is nearly a year old.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 04:00 PM
Mar 2017

I read it around the time it was published.

As of yesterday, there wasn't anything I reported (all articles were dated ~March 2016 or earlier).

Here's an article about what happened yesterday.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/politics/southunionstreet/2017/03/07/senate-approves-bill-ending-marriage-licence-requirements/98880028/

Here's the actual bill.

It's not a big deal, aside from the discriminatory reason they are doing it. It just takes the judges out of the business of marrying people (from licensing through solemnization) by eliminating the advance issuance of a license and solemnization by judges. It doesn't change the essential legal nature of marriage in Alabama. Anyone married elsewhere is still married. .

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
16. I see the mistake now, thanks
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:56 AM
Mar 2017

I went straight to the text of the bill now. It is still going to be an added cost to get an attorney to provide the "affidavits, forms and data" required along with multiple filing fees. I don't think it's a good thing.

http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/ALISON/SearchableInstruments/2017RS/PrintFiles/SB20-int.pdf

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
17. Stock forms will develop pretty quickly, so I doubt attorneys will be involved much
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 10:40 PM
Mar 2017

The "affidavits, forms and data" you're referencing are to amend a filing that was initially incorrect.

The remainder of the references to fees seem to make them the same as the currently existing fees.

In the grand scheme of things, I'm not going to get excited about marriages being recorded after the fact rather than licensed in advance.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
11. You don't plan on divorce though
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:18 AM
Mar 2017

I'm about to be married 23 years myself.

If you look at it like that, the attorneys will be double dipping like crazy.

It will be an added expense on everyone moving here and people will see it as something to keep them from getting married.

safeinOhio

(32,696 posts)
14. Just looking to see how it might backfire on them.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:01 PM
Mar 2017

Not good a marriage myself. First was 10 years then 22 years single then failed again.

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