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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:36 AM Mar 2017

Republicans keep saying obamacare is collapsing.

They are the ones who have sabotaged obamacare from day one. Once again the republican party misleads the american people. Obamacare has problems but they can be fixed. The republicans are going to destroy it and then lie about it.

Their healthcare replacement plan will make things worse. It takes care of the rich and insurance companies.

They have put themselves in a dangerous position. If the healthcare system gets worse, people lose their insurance and costs go up for everyone. Even the brain dead trump voters might notice. This could wreck the republican party.

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Republicans keep saying obamacare is collapsing. (Original Post) shockey80 Mar 2017 OP
Good. Because this is a democracy! They should read the declaration of independence. caroldansen Mar 2017 #1
Its a just an empty slogan. procon Mar 2017 #2
As complex as the ACA is, as woefully short of universal coverage as we would want... randome Mar 2017 #3
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2017 #7
I was laughing. I was in the doctors office and they had FOX on. hollowdweller Mar 2017 #4
More predictions... lame54 Mar 2017 #5
Is it really even collapsing? Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2017 #6

caroldansen

(725 posts)
1. Good. Because this is a democracy! They should read the declaration of independence.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:41 AM
Mar 2017

They must have forgotten about it!

procon

(15,805 posts)
2. Its a just an empty slogan.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:04 AM
Mar 2017

They're all pumping that same theme, but like everything else Republicans do, its a lie. It's not collapsing. They're trying to make it collapse despite the fact that most people like Obamacare.

A majority of Americans want to keep the Affordable Care Act in some manner, according to a poll conducted right before GOP lawmakers unveiled their proposal for replacing the law.

Per the Monmouth University poll, 51% of those surveyed said they would prefer to keep and work to improve ACA. Another 7% said they wanted to keep the health care law as is.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/03/07/poll-majority-americans-want-to-keep-obamacare/98854446/





This is a fiction that they've created to justify giving their wealthy donors and corporations a way to weasel out of the Obamacare tax obligations. Oh, they're definitely working hard to make it collapse so they can pass their new plan for profit. They will remove the Obamacare requirement that all health plans provide minimum benefits, a huge profit gift to the bottom line of insurance giants who will go back to selling those lucrative junk policies.

Follow the money. When it comes to corporate profits these so called 'states rights' Republicans want to get rid of states' rights and undermine the state's power to regulate what policies can be sold. States that have high standards for medical care and patient protections like Calif and NY, don't permit insurance companies in other states to peddle worthless policies to their citizens. Republicans are promoting "Buy Insurance Across State Lines" pushing these cheap, junk policies as a benefit under their new plan because the profit to Big Insurance is huge.


 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. As complex as the ACA is, as woefully short of universal coverage as we would want...
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:09 AM
Mar 2017

...it is a masterpiece of the sloppy, sausage-making legislation that is the norm for Congress. It is amazing to me that Obama got this passed in the first place.

We need to work on improving it and nudging it toward a more universal care model but it represents a seismic undertaking that we should celebrate (for the time being).

The GOP's empty rhetoric shows they still, after seven years, have nothing that can compare to what we have now.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
4. I was laughing. I was in the doctors office and they had FOX on.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:26 AM
Mar 2017

I was in there for a long time waiting, hours, and every time, no matter who they had on they used the word "failed" when they described the ACA.

It was like they gave them all a contract that when they mentioned ACA tthey had to say "failed" too. Just like Frank Luntz rule that if any member of the Bush admin mentioned 9/11, they had to also at some point say something about Saddam.
It was such obvious propaganda messaging I was laughing.

lame54

(35,295 posts)
5. More predictions...
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:29 AM
Mar 2017

It appears more and more that no amount of silver bullets or wooden stakes can kill the monster known as the republican party

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,416 posts)
6. Is it really even collapsing?
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:55 AM
Mar 2017

The only ones whom seem to be declaring it a "crisis" are Republicans claiming that it is to make an argument for repealing and "replacing" it. Sure, there are some people for whom ACA may not working particularly great but it seems like the vast majority of people whom are on the exchanges seem to be getting what they need from it. If it was literally collapsing in front of our eyes it would be blindingly obvious to everybody that it would need to be fixed and/or replaced. Part of the problem too is that many of the problems that people are having are actually with private insurers- whom remain the crux of our healthcare system- and those problems are being conflated with ACA, which may have little or no actual connection to the law itself. Additionally, little attention/focus is being drawn to Republican/SCOTUS sabotage of the law that has made ACA work much less effectively than it otherwise might be working had Republicans allowed the law to function as it was originally written.

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