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Flynn today filed papers registering 'retroactively' as registered agent for a foreign country - Turkey, while he was working for the Trump Campaign!
Watching Chris Hayes now. Stay tuned.
More info: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/michael-flynn-disclosed-his-lobbying-might-have-helped-turkey-n731056
bpositive
(423 posts)I think. What does this mean?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That's what a "registered agent" is, I believe. Someone who is designated in another jurisdiction to receive legal papers being served on you.
So if someone wanted to send Turkey a legal notice, they could have a constable serve it on Flynn here in the states, and boom...Turkey is considered by the Courts as having been legally served.
Not sure that's meaningful. Is that a big deal? Because of the connection with Turkey? Turkey is a U.S. ally.
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)what I described. Every corporation has in its corporate papers filed with the Sec of State a "registered agent." That's a person that the corporation has designated as the official person to serve legal papers on, when serving the corporation.
A corporation has a registered agent in every state it does business in. It can be anyone. It's usually a lawyer or the company's in-house counsel.
So that's a recognized term in America.
But if he's something else....there may be a different definition for a foreign country.
It could also just mean that he's registered, which just means his name is on file somewhere, but not a "registered agent."
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)So that when the amount he was paid comes out, he isn't accused of acceptance of bribes.
So in being a lobbyist for any other country, he is a traitor to ours.
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)he is admitting to being a lobbyist for a foreign government. It is legal to do so, if and only if you register with the State Dept as such. To be acting as an undisclosed lobbyist for a foreign government, while working for a Presidential campaign is a bit much - not to mention illegal.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)while being..or having been, an agent of another country.
and what about the that now well known dinner he had in Moscow where he was paid ?
Daily Kos said:
"the Constitution prohibits any person holding any Office of Profit or Trust from accepting gifts or payments from any foreign country. The Defense Department has made clear this restriction applies to retired military officers, who continue to hold offices of trust."
So he got paid by both Turkey AND Russia?????
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Maybe they didn't know he was STILL lobbying for Turkey at that time.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Although he'll go to his grave never admitting. Because...he never does anything wrong! And he's the BEST at choosing National Security directors and advisors! Everyone says he's the best!
George II
(67,782 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)They are showing no loyalty to America. Isn't there at least one Republican who will place the USA above their own freaking degenerate GOP?
dalton99a
(81,590 posts)Pluvious
(4,319 posts)delisen
(6,044 posts)Maybe best thing to do is take a pitch-fork to the haystack.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)What the hell is going on? Have we been taken over by foreign agents?
pkdu
(3,977 posts)eShirl
(18,503 posts)dalton99a
(81,590 posts)and receiving money from them
GP6971
(31,209 posts)this wouldn't be tolerated. It would be an automatic disqualifier.
George II
(67,782 posts)GP6971
(31,209 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)in that work.
Tanuki
(14,920 posts)by going back and revising the record of his Senate testimony after he was caught lying? I didn't know you could do that, either!
Docreed2003
(16,876 posts)malaise
(269,158 posts)<snip>
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump, who asked for and received then-national security adviser Michael Flynn's resignation Monday, on Wednesday defended the fired aide as "a wonderful man."
Flynn, who had deep connections with Trump fostered throughout the 2016 campaign, was asked to resign after it became public that he had misled Vice President Mike Pence on conversations he had before moving into the White House regarding sanctions on Russia with Sergey Kislyak, the Kremlin's man in Washington.
"Gen. Flynn is a wonderful man. I think he has been treated very, very unfairly by the media, as I call it, the fake media in many cases," Trump said. "And I think it is really a sad thing that he was treated so badly."
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Not a fake agent
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)I saw that.
Damn
Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)I know he is retired but he is still subject to the UCMJ.
elmac
(4,642 posts)RT reported a WIKIleak email dump 20 some minutes before the email dump happened.
spanone
(135,877 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)As soon as Flynn was known to be with the Trumpy team, reports were flying around everywhere that Flynn was on contract with the government of Turkey-- that he was an agent for Turkey. This is NOT a revelation.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)Flynn actually filing (retroactively) as a 'foreign agent", admitting that he was a paid lobbyist for a foreign government..
Also, I didn't post this in 'Breaking News', I posted it here in 'General Discussion'. What is your problem with the OP?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,043 posts)This is the appropriate forum for his post, a link to a current show.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)I had read about this online a while back.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Doodley
(9,128 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)wishstar
(5,271 posts)Elijah Cummings even wrote a letter to VP Pence and transition team expressing concern about possible conflicts of interest.
So Spicer today was not accurate and making up BS saying that Trump & Co didn't know anything about this before now
This other thread shows timeline of press reports back in Nov and Dec, and Cummings' letter:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028772852
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Un.fucking.Real
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)down for the laypeople ( like me).
Good grief...just can't keep up with all this shit.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) is a United States law (22 U.S.C. § 611 et seq.) passed in 1938 requiring that agents representing the interests of foreign powers in a "political or quasi-political capacity" disclose their relationship with the foreign government and information about related activities and finances. (1)
Flynn was a member of Trump's campaign, was the front-runner to be named Trump's National Security Adviser, and received classified briefings. At the same time he and/or his company were being paid by a 'Turkish Company' to 'lobby for Turkish interests'. That made him a 'Foreign Agent' under the above act and required that he disclose such.
Today he finally filed the required paperwork to retroactively register as a Foreign Agent.
The White House claims that Trump was not aware of Flynn's contract with Turkey, which is a demonstrably false claim (2).
It is a big deal because a) Flynn was breaking the law, b) he had an obvious conflict of interest, and he didn't bother to admit it until after he was fired as National Security Adviser, and c) because Trump is still lying to the American public.
(1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act
(2) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028772852
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)thank-you for your patience with me!
Bigredhunk
(1,351 posts)Orrex
(63,224 posts)If Obama had pulled something like this, they wouldn't have impeached him.
They'd have assassinated him.