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Breaking Now: MSNBC reporting that Michael Flynn was a Foreign Agent (Original Post) Stonepounder Mar 2017 OP
Whoa bpositive Mar 2017 #1
"Registered agent" - is that like he's legal rep to receive legal papers? Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #2
Does it also allow that person to sign agreements of any sort on behalf of the Turkish government? Crash2Parties Mar 2017 #8
No. I worked in the legal field. "Registered agent" is... Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #35
It means he's covering his ass sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #9
Oh. Still lock him up. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2017 #11
As I understand it, Stonepounder Mar 2017 #10
Not to mention accepting a high security job with the WH dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #33
Whoa. A lobbyist? It was in secret? Trump didn't know? Congress didn't know? Wow.nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #36
It was an openly known "secret" if that sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #45
Trump & Flynn were bffs, so I'm thinkin' Trump must've known. Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #46
It basically means he's a lobbyist. George II Mar 2017 #22
Freaking Republicans Achilleaze Mar 2017 #3
America First means America Last in Trumpspeak. dalton99a Mar 2017 #12
Maybe not last, but just "In the way!" Pluvious Mar 2017 #32
I think there may be a few. I am still looking. Needles in haystack delisen Mar 2017 #20
This is what I think, too. This is frickin' scary, what's going on. Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #47
Registered with DOJ has a lobbyist for Turkey Aug-Nov 2016 pkdu Mar 2017 #4
a little late, isn't he? eShirl Mar 2017 #5
He had no idea he was working for another country dalton99a Mar 2017 #13
In a "normal" administration GP6971 Mar 2017 #6
So much for "extreme vetting". Oh wait, he isn't a Muslim. George II Mar 2017 #23
Yep, extreme vetting is "selective" n/t GP6971 Mar 2017 #25
how do you do this "retroactively"? He should have done it while he was engaged KittyWampus Mar 2017 #7
I guess, the same way Jeff Sessions tried to "unperjure" himself Tanuki Mar 2017 #15
When you're a republican it's cool...you just make the rules up! Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #21
Cannot be true - He's a wonderful man malaise Mar 2017 #14
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2017 #16
I wonder what the military thinks of that Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #17
And the WIKI Russia connection elmac Mar 2017 #18
while he was a member of trump's cabinet???? spanone Mar 2017 #19
This is NOT breaking news! This is old news. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #24
There is a difference between 'reports flying around' and Stonepounder Mar 2017 #28
Stonepounder is right, the registration IS news. At the very least it is legal confirmation. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #29
treason. nt LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #26
That is actually old news. avebury Mar 2017 #27
Flynn is Agent Flynn, licensed to shill HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #30
He's an agent? Big deal. What about Hillary Clinton's emails? (sarcasm) Doodley Mar 2017 #31
Folks, we're under Russian control. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #34
News reports and Dems in Congress were bringing up Flynn/Turkey back in November wishstar Mar 2017 #37
Man, do the Republicans love their foreign agents or what??!?!!?! AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #38
WTF does this mean???? Someone please break this Blue_Roses Mar 2017 #39
OK, let me try to explain why this is a 'big deal' Stonepounder Mar 2017 #42
Also, a Turkish opposition leader resides in the USA and the Turkish dictator wants him extradited. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #43
Okay, got it. Thank-you and Blue_Roses Mar 2017 #44
- Bigredhunk Mar 2017 #40
I wonder if Herr Trump still has complete confidence in him? Orrex Mar 2017 #41

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
2. "Registered agent" - is that like he's legal rep to receive legal papers?
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 09:44 PM
Mar 2017

That's what a "registered agent" is, I believe. Someone who is designated in another jurisdiction to receive legal papers being served on you.

So if someone wanted to send Turkey a legal notice, they could have a constable serve it on Flynn here in the states, and boom...Turkey is considered by the Courts as having been legally served.

Not sure that's meaningful. Is that a big deal? Because of the connection with Turkey? Turkey is a U.S. ally.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
35. No. I worked in the legal field. "Registered agent" is...
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 11:59 PM
Mar 2017

what I described. Every corporation has in its corporate papers filed with the Sec of State a "registered agent." That's a person that the corporation has designated as the official person to serve legal papers on, when serving the corporation.

A corporation has a registered agent in every state it does business in. It can be anyone. It's usually a lawyer or the company's in-house counsel.

So that's a recognized term in America.

But if he's something else....there may be a different definition for a foreign country.

It could also just mean that he's registered, which just means his name is on file somewhere, but not a "registered agent."

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
9. It means he's covering his ass
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 09:49 PM
Mar 2017

So that when the amount he was paid comes out, he isn't accused of acceptance of bribes.
So in being a lobbyist for any other country, he is a traitor to ours.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
10. As I understand it,
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 09:50 PM
Mar 2017

he is admitting to being a lobbyist for a foreign government. It is legal to do so, if and only if you register with the State Dept as such. To be acting as an undisclosed lobbyist for a foreign government, while working for a Presidential campaign is a bit much - not to mention illegal.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
33. Not to mention accepting a high security job with the WH
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 11:53 PM
Mar 2017

while being..or having been, an agent of another country.

and what about the that now well known dinner he had in Moscow where he was paid ?

Daily Kos said:
"the Constitution prohibits any person “holding any Office of Profit or Trust” from accepting gifts or payments from any foreign country. The Defense Department has made clear this restriction applies to retired military officers, who continue to hold offices of trust."
So he got paid by both Turkey AND Russia?????

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
46. Trump & Flynn were bffs, so I'm thinkin' Trump must've known.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 09:49 PM
Mar 2017

Although he'll go to his grave never admitting. Because...he never does anything wrong! And he's the BEST at choosing National Security directors and advisors! Everyone says he's the best!

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
3. Freaking Republicans
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 09:46 PM
Mar 2017

They are showing no loyalty to America. Isn't there at least one Republican who will place the USA above their own freaking degenerate GOP?

delisen

(6,044 posts)
20. I think there may be a few. I am still looking. Needles in haystack
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 10:44 PM
Mar 2017

Maybe best thing to do is take a pitch-fork to the haystack.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
47. This is what I think, too. This is frickin' scary, what's going on.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 09:49 PM
Mar 2017

What the hell is going on? Have we been taken over by foreign agents?

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
15. I guess, the same way Jeff Sessions tried to "unperjure" himself
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 10:08 PM
Mar 2017

by going back and revising the record of his Senate testimony after he was caught lying? I didn't know you could do that, either!

malaise

(269,158 posts)
14. Cannot be true - He's a wonderful man
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 09:56 PM
Mar 2017
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/15/politics/donald-trump-michael-flynn/
<snip>
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump, who asked for and received then-national security adviser Michael Flynn's resignation Monday, on Wednesday defended the fired aide as "a wonderful man."
Flynn, who had deep connections with Trump fostered throughout the 2016 campaign, was asked to resign after it became public that he had misled Vice President Mike Pence on conversations he had before moving into the White House regarding sanctions on Russia with Sergey Kislyak, the Kremlin's man in Washington.

"Gen. Flynn is a wonderful man. I think he has been treated very, very unfairly by the media, as I call it, the fake media in many cases," Trump said. "And I think it is really a sad thing that he was treated so badly."

================
Not a fake agent
 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
18. And the WIKI Russia connection
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 10:38 PM
Mar 2017

RT reported a WIKIleak email dump 20 some minutes before the email dump happened.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
24. This is NOT breaking news! This is old news.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 11:03 PM
Mar 2017

As soon as Flynn was known to be with the Trumpy team, reports were flying around everywhere that Flynn was on contract with the government of Turkey-- that he was an agent for Turkey. This is NOT a revelation.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
28. There is a difference between 'reports flying around' and
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 11:15 PM
Mar 2017

Flynn actually filing (retroactively) as a 'foreign agent", admitting that he was a paid lobbyist for a foreign government..

Also, I didn't post this in 'Breaking News', I posted it here in 'General Discussion'. What is your problem with the OP?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
29. Stonepounder is right, the registration IS news. At the very least it is legal confirmation.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 11:20 PM
Mar 2017

This is the appropriate forum for his post, a link to a current show.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
37. News reports and Dems in Congress were bringing up Flynn/Turkey back in November
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:01 AM
Mar 2017

Elijah Cummings even wrote a letter to VP Pence and transition team expressing concern about possible conflicts of interest.

So Spicer today was not accurate and making up BS saying that Trump & Co didn't know anything about this before now

This other thread shows timeline of press reports back in Nov and Dec, and Cummings' letter:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028772852

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
39. WTF does this mean???? Someone please break this
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:16 AM
Mar 2017

down for the laypeople ( like me).
Good grief...just can't keep up with all this shit.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
42. OK, let me try to explain why this is a 'big deal'
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 01:23 AM
Mar 2017

The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) is a United States law (22 U.S.C. § 611 et seq.) passed in 1938 requiring that agents representing the interests of foreign powers in a "political or quasi-political capacity" disclose their relationship with the foreign government and information about related activities and finances. (1)

Flynn was a member of Trump's campaign, was the front-runner to be named Trump's National Security Adviser, and received classified briefings. At the same time he and/or his company were being paid by a 'Turkish Company' to 'lobby for Turkish interests'. That made him a 'Foreign Agent' under the above act and required that he disclose such.

Today he finally filed the required paperwork to retroactively register as a Foreign Agent.

The White House claims that Trump was not aware of Flynn's contract with Turkey, which is a demonstrably false claim (2).

It is a big deal because a) Flynn was breaking the law, b) he had an obvious conflict of interest, and he didn't bother to admit it until after he was fired as National Security Adviser, and c) because Trump is still lying to the American public.



(1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act
(2) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028772852

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
43. Also, a Turkish opposition leader resides in the USA and the Turkish dictator wants him extradited.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 01:25 AM
Mar 2017

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
41. I wonder if Herr Trump still has complete confidence in him?
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 01:01 AM
Mar 2017

If Obama had pulled something like this, they wouldn't have impeached him.


They'd have assassinated him.

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