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Cyrano

(15,051 posts)
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 04:12 PM Mar 2017

Can't afford medical insurance? Then die.

That should be the title of the Republican replacement for Obmacare.

They are in the process of fucking millions of their own voters and condemning an unknown number of them to death.

I won't rehash their "plan" here. So much has been written elsewhere. But I will say this. I pity those who voted against Trump and will lose their medical coverage. And perhaps their lives.

And for those who depend on Obamacare for survival, yet voted for Trump, many will also lose their medical care and/or die.

I've lost any pity I may have had for that latter group. Tolerance of ignorance goes just so far. If those who voted for Trump lose their medical coverage, and many of them die, fuck them. It means that there will be that many fewer who will vote for this madman and Republicans the next time around.

And if you think that sounds harsh or uncaring, save your pity for those who "got it," voted against Trump and the Republicans in their states and districts, lost, and are now screwed.

Trump, and the Republican Party at the national and local levels, are a lethal disease that will cost the lives of countless Americans. May they take their right wing ideology and rot in hell with it.

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PsychoBabble

(837 posts)
1. "Trump, and the Republican Party at the national and local levels, are a lethal disease ..."
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 04:14 PM
Mar 2017

Sad. True.

“Universal coverage has never been a conservative goal,” said Young. “In other periods when Republicans had control of the entire government ... they never even attempted to tackle the uninsured or any of these things because it’s not been a priority for them.

“This is why I sort of half jokingly referred ... to this bill as a huge tax cut financed by Medicaid cuts, because tax cuts are something that they are unified about,” Young added.

And Ryan is unified in this as well. This is, in fact, the Rosetta Stone by which Ryan’s worldview is explained: Those who have achieved affluence have done so through proper moral choices and deserve rewards. Those who are struggling have made poor moral choices and require punishments to induce them back into prosperity. That’s the whole of it. And you can see how this is wholly incompatible with what “health care reform” seeks to achieve. In Ryan’s view, if you have come to the point in your life where you are incapable of simply financing your own health care, this is down to your personal failings, and you don’t deserve much beyond the barest of minimums.

So in the end, it’s not that Paul Ryan doesn’t understand health insurance. And it’s not that he doesn’t understand math well enough to know that the numbers don’t add up to a sufficient “replacement” for Obamacare. That’s because what Ryan is “repealing” and “replacing” isn’t a health care bill ― he’s swapping out the moral universe that gave birth to the Affordable Care Act with the one that he prefers. One in which the state rewards affluence and punishes those who fail to achieve it. One in which the very notion of redistributing money from the well-off to the poor for the purpose of health care provision is a mortal sin. Properly reconfiguring the universe along these moral guidelines is, to Ryan’s mind, an “act of mercy.”


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-ryan-wonk-health-care_us_58c3553ae4b0ed71826cdce2?jc91c1mj1jxajor&

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
3. Health care is as fundamental, if not more fundamental, than education.
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 04:25 PM
Mar 2017

What is so difficult about grasping the concept that equal access to a basic level of health care is as fundamental, if not MORE fundamental, than equal access to a basic level of education?

You cannot have a functional democracy without equal access to a basic level of education. And education doesn't much matter if you are dead.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8773578

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
4. Yep. Because the under/uninsured "make bad choices."
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 04:34 PM
Mar 2017


They'd return us to industrial London before the first 1832 reform bill, right down to the unregulated use of children to clean chimneys. They'd do it in a heartbeat if they could get away with it.

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
5. They really did fuck over everyone
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 04:41 PM
Mar 2017

All we can do is hope that their own suffering will be a motivating factor... and that they won't just listen to FOX/Hate Radio to tell them "oh you don't have healthcare cuz libruls, Obama did it" or whatever spin they will put forth. Crazy as that sounds.

world wide wally

(21,754 posts)
6. A thought just occurred to me that Republicans would almost have to love.
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 04:46 PM
Mar 2017

Money collected by the Federal Government should not be allowed to be distrusted across state lines. In other words, money collected in California must be spent in California. NOT Mississippi. So, if a health plan is working (like they do in most blue states), red states have nothing to say about it. If people in red states are dying because they refuse to do anything about it, it won't be long till their population reaches zero.
State's rights, y'know.

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