/sarcasm

Are you now or have you ever been tied to Russia? !

The good old days, eh?

with either Trump or Pence.
Organize, protest, raise funds etc...yes. but ultimately we must stand by for four years and watch the GOP and Trump systematically destroy many gains over the last 8 years, and more. But also introduce even more extreme right policies never contemplated before because of their crippling majorities. My gawd they could destroy everything by then.

There is no constitutional safeguard for this kind of situation. If a President gets in through covert illegal methods, with the help of foreign agents, and a complacent and complaisant Congress, there is nothing we can do if also all the law enforcement positions and soon the SCOTUS as well, are filled with Trump loyalists.

The Republic can't endure four years of this clown. There will simply be nothing we recognize as a democracy left at the end of four years of Trump.

Clinton/Kaine being installed. A president and a vp have resigned before. If the Nixon or Agnew corruption had reached into the Republican Party. Rockefeller and Gerald Ford may not have been put into office.

All of the actors in the Russian affair are politicians-they know how to make deals to save themselves.

Political parties don't have the power to decide between themselves who will be "installed" as president. We all agree by virtue of our citizenship that the presidency is controlled through a vote, as designed in the Constitution.

We do not live under a Parliamentary system.

a tax evasion charge with Justice Department. Later Nixon resigned, Ford became president and Nelson Rockefeller became vp

This had never occurred before-it was unprecedented, and based upon the 25th amendment but the 25th amendment did not cover the Rockefeller becoming vp issue so Congress sort of felt its way along. The key was the support of the people.

http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/big/1010.html

Nixon, already close to being impeached, consulted with Congress and others on who would replace Agnew. Nixon nominated Gerald Ford and he was approved by the Senate.

When the Republicans told Nixon it was time to resign or be impeached (they had the votes), Nixon resigned and Gerald Ford became president. He consulted on a vice-president and nominated Nelson Rockefeller, the liberal Republican governor of NY (who was hated by the party right-wingers. The Senate confirmed him.

Ford and Rockefeller went on to lose the next presidential election, the fact that Ford had pardoned Nixon was probably a factor in their loss because the pardon was unpopular with the public and many thought Nixon must have agreed to choose Ford as vp only if Ford had secretly agreed to pardon him.

Democrats and Republicans were involved in getting Agnew and Nixon out and getting Ford and Rockefeller in.


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Political maneuvers and an existing amendment to the Constitution.

Nelson A. Rockefeller, one of the nation's richest men, became the 41st vice president of the United States Dec. 19, 1974, after the House confirmed his nomination by President Ford, 287–128. The Senate had given its approval Dec. 10, 90–7.

Thus the nation for the first time had both a president and a vice president chosen under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution, rather than by a national election.

The House completed its vote at 8:04 p.m. and Chief Justice Warren E. Burger swore in the 66-year-old former New York governor in the Senate at 10:12 p.m. It was the first time the Senate had allowed television coverage of its floor proceedings.

Taking office at a time of deep economic trouble for the United States, Rockefeller said in a brief acceptance speech that “we as a nation have the will, the determination and the capability to overcome the hard realities of our times. I am optimistic about the long-term future.”


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Rockefeller's wealth, which he estimated at $62.6-million, accounted for most of the controversy aroused during the confirmation hearings. Some members of Congress questioned whether Rockefeller might seek to influence federal actions and legislation through gifts and loans to officials.

It was disclosed during the hearings that while he was governor of New York Rockefeller had given or loaned large amounts of money to officials and former aides, including Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger.)

Rockefeller pledged to limit his generosity as vice president. He also offered to place his holdings in a blind trust while in office. But congressional leaders said this would serve no purpose and no such condition was imposed.

Largely as a result of the wealth issue, Rockefeller's confirmation took almost four months. He had been nominated Aug. 20. Another factor in the delay was the intervention of the biennial congressional election. Rockefeller supporters charged that the Democratic leaders of Congress delayed confirmation so that Rockefeller could not help Republican candidates in the campaign.

By comparison, Gerald R. Ford's confirmation as vice president a year earlier had taken less than two months—from nomination Oct. 12, 1973, to swearing in Dec. 6. And in Ford's case Congress had been feeling its way, setting precedents used in the Rockefeller nomination, because the 25th Amendment did not spell out a confirmation procedure for filling a vice presidential vacancy.

Rockefeller's confirmation ended a chain of events that had begun in October 1973 when Spiro T. Agnew resigned as vice president, pleading no contest to a charge of tax evasion. President Richard Nixon chose Ford, then House minority leader, to succeed Agnew. Ford became president Aug. 9, 1974, when Nixon resigned to avoid impeachment. (Agnew resignation, Ford selection, 1973 CQ Almanac p. 1054, 1060; Ford succession to presidency, p. 903)

either we take back a house of congress, against the odds, or we lose every social, economic and environmental safeguard built up over the 20th century.

The way our constitution is set up, the (guilty party) Republicans will have the White House regardless. Paul Ryan, then Orrin Hatch, THEN TILLERSON OR MNUCHEN : Trump picks, even if Pence is tarred by the same brush as Trump. How crazy is that? A possibility that if an administration is found to be "treasonous" in winning an election, the opposing party must have the House speaker and Senate president pro tem of the Senate or they (and the true winning candidate) are out of luck.

if as defined above - WE the people can do something. We, the people can shut the nation down by doing absolutely nothing until something is done. Sadly, we now know that the GOP will support a foreign government as long as they are allowed to retain the levers of power. Sadly, we now know that the GOP voters will support a congress that supports/props up an illegally installed power as long as they can have their social conservative views supported. The problem is that one third of the country does not respect nor love the country and the values we hold dear. There is another third that chooses not to participate in supporting, selecting or acquiring the knowledge necessary to make intelligent decisions. That which is required to ensure the republic can work. And finally, the third that votes and actively participates for the well being of all - we still have power. We, the people can shut down an illegal regime by doing absolutely nothing until change happens. As a nation, we are a business (sadly) and when you impact the flow of dollars - then the institutions of this nation will wake up and demand change... As a people we took our government for granted and now we know...

Reference Pence...if the situation as defined above is true - then Pence cannot be allowed to benefit from ill-gotten fruit. Whether he participated or not, knowledgeable or not, the administration and all that are part of it - are illegally in power. If it turns out that Trump colluded with Russia to undermine our Republic.

If we do not value our Republic - then we have nothing.

could get up at the RNC and rive the crowd up with "Lock Her Up." Jeff Sessions will, of course, do nothing.

I hate these people with a passion.

Whether or not this is true, something is sketchy here. Trump is a dirty crook.

this is just BS.

ALL 65 million of us should be in the streets because of this BS

Absolutely.

Hillary's the intensively spied on person in large-population history, the most intensively and continuously observed for ammunition to use against her. There was no chance she would have loaded their gun for them.

They would also collude with Russia.

Holy crap. It's like all republicans are related, inbreed.

I'd be expecting a Pelican Brief -style murder any day now. Maybe more. And more gun sales.

Also, it would generate a Category 5 hurricane of republi-CONS yelling and screaming and demanding that ALL Americans "unite behind their president."

for that gasbag. She said she doubted Dems would get on board with 45 if there was a major terrorist attack. I'd want to know how it happened first. I seriously believe 45 would manage to get one if it kept him safe from impeachment. Probably from Putin, trying to make it look like "radical islamists" did it. Putin has done that before in far eastern Europe. Maybe it was in Serbia.

That the military has moved B-52s to South Korea. If given a chance, I suspect that Trump would nuke North Korea and we would hear that support crap for the president. Keeping us safe - until blow-back.

Trump is the world's greatest jackass.

And Flynn's too. My husband, retired from the state of Florida as a cop, has inside his pension that if he is charged with any Crime. Poof it goes.

To think a 4 star general could be a foreign agent, and receive a pension blows my mind. They are throwing people out of the service, especially coast guard for made up reasons. Then then try to find a job in their 50s and 60s. Maybe the dollar general might allow them to work as a cashier.

Swear word, that I didn't write inserted here.

With all the dirty tricks. Nice guys finish last- our party will not last if we if we continue on this path. I struggle with this- I teach my kids to do what is right and not to cheat.

I see this when I watch their soccer games. Other teams play a numbers game. The refs only can stop the game for fowls so often and the ref only call fouls on what they see. Kids at a young age know this, imagine them as adults.

Kids cheat, get caught a quarter of the timesand only get a slap on the hands. Very frustrating. I see this going on now- all this crap being done by repugs and not enough refs to catch it- especially when you fire a large number of the I.e. Attorney generals

Just lined up all his pawns, agents, tools, and useful idiots inside and outside this nation and had at it.

We have to play it differently from now on -- but not by becoming like the GOP.

Yeah, she ran such a lousy campaign. And she was so unpopular that she got 3 million more votes than Red Don.

The treason in Trump World goes all the way through.

be right up their with the most corrupt fake-patriot, slimball bastards ever to wave a fucking American flag.

FBI are traitors to their country and this guy should go to jail. He violated the Hatch act for pure personal profit, proving he's Repug through and through.

their Russia contact criminals rewarded with White House positions. The rest of those WH appointments need to be made to "resign".

Because once Republicans manage to sneak in/force their new laws, it's almost impossible to remove the law.

Even the clearly unconstitutional/discrimination laws & policies Republicans cram in take a long time in the courts to get rid of.

(Like their recent Muslim religion ban, the many states gay-hate laws , & states anti-LEGAL-abortion laws/policies against access to birth control & woman's' health services)


THANKS OBAMA



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