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Bringing the conversation back to TRUMPS TAXES---CONNECTIONS ---
The President of United States needs to show hes taxes
Rene
(1,183 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)But I hate the bashing
still_one
(92,409 posts)returns, when you only have the first two pages of a 2005 tax return
chillfactor
(7,584 posts)please keep up.
still_one
(92,409 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)"Tax ReturnS" and no mention of just the 2-page Form 1040. And then took forever to actually say that, after a 15-minute history lesson about Watergate.
As someone mentions below, it was reminiscent of Geraldo Rivera's "Capone" vault fiasco.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)I expect more from Rachel.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,048 posts)MFM008
(19,818 posts)loosed upon the media.
Nothing Illegal.
shows he paid taxes.
he is a POS.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)we can do it
(12,196 posts)chillfactor
(7,584 posts)and more will come...drip, by drip, by drip.......Rachel just has taken the first small step in finally getting to the bottom of the orange one's tax returns.....I have no idea why so many DUers are putting Rachel done so horribly. It makes me sick!
we can do it
(12,196 posts)womanofthehills
(8,771 posts)and she believes she will.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Welcome to DU you..
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Eyes wide open right?
mvd
(65,180 posts)That the Russian oligarchs paid 2.5x more then the property was worth was interesting IMO. Should make people more curious.
we can do it
(12,196 posts)mvd
(65,180 posts)The alternative miminum tax also was a story, but this at the least should raise questions about dirty money.
George II
(67,782 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Rachel got played by Bannon.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)in one installment of a news program and are very good at trashing allies.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)She teased something in a tweet as if it was a bombshell. They put a Countdown Clock on the show prior to hers. It turned out to be nothing.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"as if it was a bombshell..."
No doubt, you certainly need to infer as such, regardless of accuracy to better maintain the consistency of your narrative.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Did you hear the way Chris Hayes talked about the upcoming Maddow show?
Dr. Strange
(25,925 posts)"as if it was a bombshell..."
she certainly intended for us to infer that it was a bombshell. She didn't advertise this as a minor revelation on a typical show. This was sold as a bombshell; it turned out to be a dud (in the sense that it didn't live up to the hype).
womanofthehills
(8,771 posts)to O'Donnell that she believes more taxes will be revealed. I think it was a great ending - telling people to send any info to her.
More than 70% of the people want to see Trump's tax returns and Rachael is making this a big subject. She is continuing on Lawrence O'Donnells show - and is great. Talking about Russian who paid Donald double for a house in Florida - need to see taxes to see what the deal is - etc.
dchill
(38,539 posts)This was just a counter move she's playing with obviously inferior opponents. She wasn't played by anyone who won't soon be outplayed. Personally, I think it likely that the leaker is Trump himself. It's probably his best one.
Progressive dog
(6,918 posts)it will have been a dud. But, it's not as if Trump didn't have other options to send the return to.
Rachel used the return to promote a show on Trump's secret money ties to foreign governments and agents. The tax return was used as a stand in for the real complete returns that might explain Trump's strange support for Putin and opposition to NATO.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)too.
Don't shoot the messenger please.
She has been connecting the dots with the whole Russia event. I applaud her on that.
calimary
(81,500 posts)We need to see A LOT more of this. We need to see from then - forward.
But it's more than we've had before.
But nobody's on the Russia angle like she has been. She's a world-class connecter-of-dots. I wish they were all like her. Just as I wish they were all interviewers like Joy Reid.
radical noodle
(8,013 posts)The connections to other countries can likely be found in those tax returns.
She tied it together very well.
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,794 posts)Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)I always enjoy her show. She has been doing a great job explaining the incredibly convoluted relationships between Trump etal and various and assorted Russians.
BallardWA
(97 posts)Rachel chummed the water.
longship
(40,416 posts)Love Rachel. She gives all she has. And this shows exactly the kind of stink which lies below.
We're gonna need a bigger boat. That's for sure.
cilla4progress
(24,772 posts)Is, as others have said, to encourage this leaker or others to leak. Show what a large platform they will have...the fame they may garner.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)colbertforpresident
(241 posts)The right-wing media will now claim that this proves that Trump pays millions in taxes and this exonerates him.
doc03
(35,378 posts)fell for it hook line and sinker. It was a total non story that took the Russia connection down for the day.
manicraven
(901 posts)honest observations.
doc03
(35,378 posts)digging into the Russia connection but the tax form hype was like the Al Capon's vault story.
manicraven
(901 posts)I like Rachel fine and admire her, but this should have been handled differently. First, the taxes weren't recent. Second, she only had two pages. Doesn't mean I'm still not with Rachel!
worstexever
(265 posts)She was relentless about his corruption week after week, for months, and he was eventually indicted. I hope she can do the same for 45.
msdogi
(430 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)will turn out to be a brilliant journalistic judo move and is not remotely analogous to Capone's vault.
If Trump himself leaked this information, he made an astounding blunder as it served to raise more questions than it answers. We did learn several things from a mere two pages. But more importantly, it raised awareness that this is but the tip of a massive iceberg.
"Don't play what's there, play what's not there." ~ Miles Davis
Rachel played what wasn't there like a stradivarius, particularly since she has maintained a reputation as a journalist who doesn't report wild speculation as if it were fact.
Vinca
(50,304 posts)when we see it. Better to be talking about health care or Russia. If she had the supporting schedules that might have actually shown something it would have been different. As it is, Trump has bragged forever about paying no taxes so those 2 pages from 2005 are suspect because it shows he paid taxes. And tax day is a month away. When asked for his 2016 taxes he'll divert to the 2005 taxes that are supposedly now public.
NamesDave
(58 posts)Paladin
(28,273 posts)More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)...was saying from almost the beginning of the show that it was obvious that Trump leaked this "client copy" and that Rachel knew it and was using it for her own purpose. I don't have cable but I assume RM didn't say that. I wish she had. I do agree with LM that this will raise more questions that Trump won't answer.
Progressive dog
(6,918 posts)going over Trump's money connections to foreign governments. The tweet was a teaser to get people to watch her show.
I think she used the returns well.
Kota
(901 posts)I thought she got that point across well.