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mnhtnbb

(31,404 posts) Tue Mar 14, 2017, 10:45 PM Mar 2017

I am coming down on the side of someone other than Trump released those two pages of returns

and it was a test to see the response.

Do we really believe that whomever was responsible doesn't have access to back up schedules and other returns?
And if the individual has that access, why wouldn't there be more released?

If nothing further is released, does that tend to point the finger back to the leak coming straight from Trump? What good does that do him?

No, I think there's more to come--and not from Trump.

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I am coming down on the side of someone other than Trump released those two pages of returns (Original Post) mnhtnbb Mar 2017 OP

The "Client Copy" stamp on the second page is a strong indicator that this came from Trump scheming daemons Mar 2017 #1

well, it's a strong indicator that it came from donnie's copy rather than the irs's copy. unblock Mar 2017 #3

Not necessarily. Lots of people could have access to client copies. mnhtnbb Mar 2017 #5

No, it isn't. Copies of his tax returns -- made from his client copy -- would have been submitted pnwmom Mar 2017 #12

Well, if Trump released some of them, he can release all of them. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #2

Putin? Russia, maybe? n/t Tatiana Mar 2017 #4

FAKE TAX RETURN??? longime demolurker Mar 2017 #6

The White House basically confirmed the numbers. mnhtnbb Mar 2017 #7

I agree with your analysis Gothmog Mar 2017 #8

I think they sell " client copy" stamps at staples njhoneybadger Mar 2017 #9

Bannon n/t TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #10

John Miller, or John Barron. dalton99a Mar 2017 #11

What good does that do him? moondust Mar 2017 #13

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)

1. The "Client Copy" stamp on the second page is a strong indicator that this came from Trump

Reply to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 10:46 PM

Mar 2017

unblock

(52,328 posts)

3. well, it's a strong indicator that it came from donnie's copy rather than the irs's copy.

Reply to scheming daemons (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 10:50 PM

Mar 2017

but i'm sure there's a whole list of people who would have had access to it, from donnie's family and staff to his legal and accounting teams. in theory, any of them could have done it with or without his authorization.

mnhtnbb

(31,404 posts)

5. Not necessarily. Lots of people could have access to client copies.

Reply to scheming daemons (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 10:51 PM

Mar 2017

I doubt Trump would even know where to find them. He'd probably need an assistant or secretary or
bookkeeper or accountant to retrieve them for him.

And there could be copies of returns he provided for deals he made with financial firms.

There are lots of places that client copies could be found, IMO.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)

12. No, it isn't. Copies of his tax returns -- made from his client copy -- would have been submitted

Reply to scheming daemons (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:37 AM

Mar 2017

every time a loan or casino regulator asked for them.

His returns, with that marking, are probably scattered in lots of places.

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)

2. Well, if Trump released some of them, he can release all of them.

Reply to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 10:46 PM

Mar 2017

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)

4. Putin? Russia, maybe? n/t

Reply to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 10:50 PM

Mar 2017

longime demolurker

(20 posts)

6. FAKE TAX RETURN???

Reply to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 10:56 PM

Mar 2017

I would like to offer another angle: If trump leaked his own Return; he could have fake figures in that Return; couldn't he?

mnhtnbb

(31,404 posts)

7. The White House basically confirmed the numbers.

Reply to longime demolurker (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 10:59 PM

Mar 2017

So if returns show up that don't verify the numbers--and the WH has confirmed fake numbers--that does not help
them.

I think if they were fake there would have been a no comment from the White House.

No, the WH turned around and attacked the media as doing something illegal by publishing them. Why bother if the numbers are fake?

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)

8. I agree with your analysis

Reply to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:14 PM

Mar 2017

I do not think that trump was the source of these returns

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)

9. I think they sell " client copy" stamps at staples

Reply to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:47 PM

Mar 2017

Seems strange that the 45regime would leak it with client copy on it.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,215 posts)

10. Bannon n/t

Reply to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:51 PM

Mar 2017

dalton99a

(81,590 posts)

11. John Miller, or John Barron.

Reply to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:18 AM

Mar 2017

And I woudn't rule out Meredith McIver.

moondust

(20,006 posts)

13. What good does that do him?

Reply to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:02 AM

Mar 2017

1. In the short term this release eats up media air time that would otherwise be focused on the potentially very serious issues of Russian hacking, corrupt business dealings, lies about Obama wiretapping, countless other lies, travel ban failures/no policy successes, disastrous health care plan, low poll numbers, etc.

2. The release seems relatively unremarkable other than revealing that he made a lot of money that year and paid a lot of taxes. Those are probably the very best cherry picked tax documents they could dig up to help reinforce his self-image as a yuuuuuge success and feed his starving ego.

3. This release may put the tax issue to rest for some who may have had lingering concerns about it. Some supporters may now say "SEE, HIS TAXES SHOW HE'S A YUUUUGE SUCCESS SO SHUT UP ABOUT IT AND MOVE ON!"

I think he probably did it in service to himself yet again.

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