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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo this is what a Christian budget looks like? Fuck food, health care, the environment and basic
common decency. We need more bullets, aircraft carriers and nukes. No need for state dept people if your goal is to just nuke anyone you disagree with. Sounds real Jesusy to me.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)He also said that you'll always have the poor among you, so, meh.
Direct quotes.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)I think that we should start asking people to explain their reasoning. Ask politely. Say that you're really interested to hear how Trump's budget furthers Jesus's teachings.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)because it makes it sound like you want to hear about Jesus.
FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)their cause and rob of life those who rob them.
Proverbs 22:22-23
If these bozos really believe in the literal Bible their collective asses are up shit creek without the paddle!
One more to close the deal on the forfeiture of their immortal soul.
No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
Matthew 6:24
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Many, if not most, are quite the opposite.
We need to recognize them for the monsters that they are and stop believing their own PR.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)When did right-wing zealots get to claim Christianity? That's what I want to know. It's no more valid than ISIS claiming Islam.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Currently, they won't be taking over the White House. They won't be installing Sharia Law.
But, the whole Southern Baptist Church -- created to make slavery seem godly -- seems to want theocracy and it IS within THEIR reach.
I know there are legitimate believers in the Bible who aren't part of this problem. Sorry to offend with such a broad brush.
But this IS a real threat to our nation. It ID's itself as Christianity. It needs to be opposed.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Use of such a broad brush is wildly inaccurate. Most mainstream Protestant denominations are liberal, and there are many liberal Catholics as well.
My Episcopal church welcomes everyone, marries same sex couples, had gay priests. Extremely inclusive.
and there is no danger of the Southern Baptist Convention taking over the US. They have no such power. The evangelical right is not unified, and their power has actually been waning over the past decade or so.
and here is some data for you:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/23/u-s-religious-groups-and-their-political-leanings/
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)"When did right-wing zealots get to claim Christianity?"
It gets to the heart of our current exchange because I trashed Christianity based on the RW bunch.
I do know fine people who believe and take the love-your-neighbor-as-yourself, go-the-extra-mile approach.
I also have a family full of warm smiles who bring great dishes to Thanksgiving dinner but always support the right-wing and worship capitalism ("no one can serve both God and money" .
Back to the point: The zealots have been inundating Congress, the press, the airwaves ... all claiming the mantle.
It's not really fair to make the real followers of Jesus fight just to keep the name, but if they don't then the other side gets it.
As individuals, there are many fine Christians (again, sorry to lump everyone together), but as a group 'Christians' pose a real threat to democracy, individual rights, and the basic human decency to look after one another.
Think of another name we can all use for them, and I'll be the first to adopt it.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... it's not just individuals who represent the mainstream of Christianity in this country. Catholics and main line Protestants (i.e., not evangelical fundamentalists) are not, for the most part, right wingers. There are Episcopalians and Lutherans and Methodists and..... these are groups, not individuals.
Still, thanks for your thoughtful response.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)This is ridiculous, unfounded prejudice. Who in the world started calling this a "Christian" budget in the first place?????
leftstreet
(36,112 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts).. is no more valid.
leftstreet
(36,112 posts)Igel
(35,350 posts)But seem to not seem any "separation of church and state" or that this country isn't founded on the Christian faith.
Seems like we want a separation of *their* church from *our* state. As long as that's done, hey, let them be merged.
gilbert sullivan
(192 posts)Remember Wally (You can't just let nature run wild) Hickel?
He was a bigtime fundie.
msongs
(67,438 posts)jesus wants them all to be rich ya know
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... you know have such a warped understanding of Jesus' teachings?
pnwmom
(108,991 posts)and other vulnerable people.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... their view of Christianity.