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noel711

(2,185 posts)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:52 AM Jun 2012

Question for the wisdom of our DU elders...

(1st, a Disclaimer-)

I am not a kid myself (I'm in my early '60's)-
but at this time of reactionary ridiculousness, we need the solid
perspective of our past history....if you remember the late 50's, early '60's
please read on and offer us your take..

Regarding the faux outrage and temper tamtrum from the right after
the SCOTUS decision...
I don't believe this decision is unprecedented, no matter how they spin it.

Elders: isn't this barrage of lies and threats comparable to the
reactions of many after the Civil Rights laws were passed?

Wasn't there a similar reaction when the schools in the south
were desegregated by law.. and crowds amassed and threatened
the young black students who attempted to go to school?

We need the truth of our history to remind us that going into
new territory is terrifying for many.. the truth will help us
remind family, friends, and neighbors that we did this before
and we get move past our fears and prejudices again.

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Question for the wisdom of our DU elders... (Original Post) noel711 Jun 2012 OP
The current court-hate is nowhere near what the hate was for the (Earl) Warren court. PoliticAverse Jun 2012 #1
And a Republican Chief Justice. Graybeard Jun 2012 #2
Wallace on the steps of the University of Alabama, rug Jun 2012 #3
No Faux News or social media jehop61 Jun 2012 #4
school desegregation was a much bigger deal rurallib Jun 2012 #5
School desgregation and in general COLGATE4 Jun 2012 #6
If you remember.. ananda Jun 2012 #7
Brown vs Board of Education was truly unprecedented. trof Jun 2012 #8
Excellent memories... noel711 Jun 2012 #9

Graybeard

(6,996 posts)
2. And a Republican Chief Justice.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:10 AM
Jun 2012

Earl Warren was three-time Republican Governor of California and the Vice Presidential nominee on the Republican ticket in 1948. Appointed Chief Justice by President Eisenhower. And yet the sweeping decisions of the Warren court were stunning.

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
4. No Faux News or social media
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:14 AM
Jun 2012

were available in the 60s. The news was a 15 minute show. We were a lot more removed from it all. I do remember when a black family moved into a building in my neighborhood in 1963 in Chicago. Neighbors swarmed the building, broke windows and shouted at the family for days. I watched it all and didn't really disagree. After all, why did this black family have to move into MY neighborhood? Thank God it has changed, for me at least. The hatred was there. What was missing was our access to it.

rurallib

(62,462 posts)
5. school desegregation was a much bigger deal
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:41 AM
Jun 2012

one could easily make a case that the privatization of the public school system of today is an outgrowth of that some 60 years later
Earl Warren was the "worst damnfool mistake I ever made" quoth Eisenhower.
Warren led a liberal court which knocked down many barriers - Roberts will sure as hell never do that. He will now continue his trek to being the worst CJ ever.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
6. School desgregation and in general
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:18 AM
Jun 2012

all the anti-segregation statutes passed in the late 50's and early 60's provoked a much more violent reaction, particularly in the Southern states. However, what was missing was the incessant gasoline-throwing of RW hate radio, RW hate TV (Fux) and the easy access to all the crazies via the internet. These new technologies have permitted the haters to get much more wound up and the rejection by this group of the Court's decision to appear to be a much more important issue than it really is.

ananda

(28,885 posts)
7. If you remember..
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:21 AM
Jun 2012

.. armed troops had to go into the South to enforce Civil Rights.

Nowadays, we try to do it through the DOJ and the courts with
seriously weak and mixed results.

trof

(54,256 posts)
8. Brown vs Board of Education was truly unprecedented.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:32 AM
Jun 2012

It reversed a century and a half of SCOTUS thinking and rulings.
Many, if not most, southerners perceived it as an attack on their region, culture, heritage, economic 'conventional wisdom', and way of life.

I grew up in Birmingham ('Bombingham') in the 40s and 50s.
Although I didn't understand it as such at the time, I saw first hand the racial prejudice and, later, the violence.

Bad times.

noel711

(2,185 posts)
9. Excellent memories...
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:08 AM
Jun 2012

But why do we forget our bloody past?

The screamers will continue to dominate the airwaves,
and many people will be exposed to their lies,
and absorb their prejudices because the screamers
use the language of hate, individualism
and paint any variation as a threat.

We need reminders.. but the hater don't want to listen.

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