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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:53 AM Mar 2017

Supporter: Trump, who took "no" for an answer, won't take "no" for an answer, will get the job done.

Angry Trump voters blame everyone but the president for US healthcare fail



The day after the flaming out of U.S. President Donald Trump’s first major legislative initiative, his supporters across America were lashing out – at conservatives, at Democrats, at leaders of his Republican Party in Congress. Only Trump himself was spared their wrath.

Many voters who elected him appeared largely willing to give him a pass on the collapse of his campaign promise to overhaul the U.S. healthcare system, stressing his short time in office.

“Being a businessman, he’ll not take ‘no’ for an answer,” said Tony Nappi, a 71-year-old from Trinity, Florida, one of the many disappointed Republicans on his weekend softball team. “He’ll get the job done.”

Support for Trump appeared unflagging, from the playing fields of a Republican stronghold in central Florida to the small town diners of North Carolina, the suburbs of Arkansas and the streets of working-class Staten Island in New York City.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/angry-trump-voters-blame-everyone-but-the-president-for-us-healthcare-fail/
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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
6. That's exactly what's happening
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:10 AM
Mar 2017

Trump is a "businessman" who "didn't know fixing healthcare was so difficult," and Ryan should have known that as a businessman he wouldn't have understood it, so it's Ryan's fault.

I cannot see how Ryan is going to survive the week. Trump and Bannon need a sacrificial lamb. It's going to be Ryan, and probably Priebus as well.

yardwork

(61,712 posts)
8. I think Ryan stays on because the Repugs can't agree on a replacement.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:19 AM
Mar 2017

Remember how difficult it was to find a replacement when Boehner quit. Ryan was reluctant to take the job. I don't see anybody else stepping up who would have enough support among the polarized Republicans.

This is an opportunity for Democrats to align with the "moderate" wing of the R party and forge a majority in opposition to the bat shit crazy Freedom Caucus. We'll see if it happens.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
10. I checked out F.R. to get a sense of where they are at on this...
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:24 AM
Mar 2017

...they all uniformly loathe Ryan, and they have named Gowdy and Gingrich as their choice for a replacement.

About half of the people responding to Gowdy as an option see the Benghazi hearings clown, a showboat who chases for the next sound byte.

The only thing they agree on is that they don't like Ryan.

underpants

(182,925 posts)
12. I think Ryan survives. He was a consensus agreement.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:09 AM
Mar 2017

This is of their own doing as I wrote about here. They have a small group holding their majority at bay. The "Freedom Caucus"are basically Teabaggers who have no interest in any government of any kind. The demands they made to drop what IS health insurance were remarkable, come time for the taxes battle they are going to want god knows what.

McCain said this week that Congress simply isn't capable of doing the Russian investigation. That's pretty telling for a Senator to say but he's right. The place is a nuthouse. We have leadership that can't lead, a tiny number of crazed zealots creating almost a 3 party system that we aren't used to, and a Senate without "Lions" to control their own grandstanding media whores.

BTW not to sound alarmist but we really are vulnerable right now. The POTUS is incapable and may be under two different controlling powers - internal (literally inside the WH) and external.

 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
2. I feel like it's starting to be irresponsible for reporters to interview these people and
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:58 AM
Mar 2017

not inform them of reality the best they can as well

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
3. Folding as strategy .It's his masterplan -dontcha know.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:01 AM
Mar 2017

Well , at least Trump will have lotsa visitors in prison.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
4. Tony Spaghetti
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:02 AM
Mar 2017

Glad you have your medicare brought to you by the Democratic party, So when you may get a heart attack playing softball you will be able to afford treatment. Your hero's bill would have gutted medicare you fucking senile fox news addled zombie

ck4829

(35,094 posts)
13. Individual Trump voters may have regrets, but these people as a whole will gouge out an eye if
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:17 AM
Mar 2017

someone told them if they would do that then they would make liberals, Muslims, immigrants, refugees, the GLBTQ community, people poorer than them, minorities, and other 'others' feel some pain later on.

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