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I see a lot of "not only no, but HELL no!"
And I do, indeed, get that. And I feel it. And I agree with it.
But that's my gut reaction, pugnacious side.
My pragmatic side sees this as an advantage. If we can bring in the language of a bill that truly fixes some or all of the flaws in the ACA, we should do that. And make the details public to inoculate against blowback or pushback.
I also think one of the things we need to do is fix, once and for all, something the GOPee did and which we bought into as well. Get rid of the name(s) - both Obama Care and Affordable Care Act. They just yank partisan chains. So, in fact, does their AHCA - American Health Care Act.
It doesn't matter what they name it so much as what they DON'T name it. Change the name far away from ACA or ACHA. No Obama Care. No Ryan Care. No Trump Care.
Start with everything we want and go from there. Talk to 45/140. Be as public and transparent as possible, Don't allow them to take sole ownership. Work it so that Mulvaney and Price are, at most, at the edges.
45/140 wants a win. Democrats and a minority to Republicans can bring this home.
And if THAT happens, WE win. WE being the Democrats and, most of all, the American people. Also, 45/140 wins. If we get what I think is possible, letting him take a victory lap is a small price.
I feel so strongly about this, I would even tolerate Gorsuch if we get what we want on health care.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Down the path along side the lake
A tender hearted Democrat saw a poor half frozen snake
His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew
"Poor thing, " she cried, "I'll take you in and I'll take care of you"
"Take me in tender Democrat
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender Democrat, " sighed the snake
She wrapped him up all cozy in a comforter of silk
And laid him by her fireside with some honey and some milk
She hurried home from work that night and soon as she arrived
She found that pretty snake she'd taken to had been revived
"Take me in, tender Democrat
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender Democrat, " sighed the snake
She clutched him to her bosom, "You're so beautiful, " she cried
"But if I hadn't brought you in by now you might have died"
She stroked his pretty skin again and kissed and held him tight
Instead of saying thanks, the snake gave her a vicious bite
"Take me in, tender Democrat
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender Democrat, " sighed the snake
"I saved you, " cried the Democrat
"And you've bitten me, but why?
You know your bite is poisonous and now I'm going to die"
"Oh shut up, silly woman, " said the reptile with a grin
"You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in
"Take me in, tender Democrat
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender Democrat " sighed the snake
dchill
(38,562 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)spanone
(135,900 posts)their bill was a tax cut for the rich...little more.
niyad
(113,620 posts)gorsuch is, as one article put it, "a pretty face on an ugly ideology"
dchill
(38,562 posts)And we'll get Gorsich anyway. He just should not get ANY Dem votes.