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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,783 posts)
1. Patience.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:21 PM
Mar 2017

They are not going to reveal publicly what they are doing. Furthermore, they have to collect enough evidence to support indictments and eventual prosecution, and that takes time. Remember, a criminal prosecution requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt, and no law enforcement agency will go forward with any evidence less than that, especially if they are looking at major players.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,783 posts)
4. And we might not know that for awhile.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:30 PM
Mar 2017

I think this whole thing is going to turn out to be very complicated and involve a lot of people. The underlying crimes are likely to be financial, like money laundering, tax evasion and racketeering, and the later shenanigans were intended to cover them up. And now there seems to be a coverup of a coverup. The financial aspects will be difficult and time-consuming to unravel - the FBI has agents who are called forensic accountants and whose function is to pick apart financial transactions to figure out what they really are. Further complicating the matter is that some of the players are foreign individuals and entities. It won't be sorted any time soon.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
9. I think we should all assume that until we know otherwise...
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:28 PM
Mar 2017

EVERY elected republican in DC has been compromised. The Russians weren't hacking just the Dems, you know...

unblock

(52,277 posts)
5. This could take quite a while. Multiple criminals, multiple crimes.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:32 PM
Mar 2017

Frankly the longer it takes, the bigger my expectations.

Worst thing would be a quick indictment and plea deal for two or three henchmen and that's that.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
6. Perhaps because it takes more than innuendo to get a conviction?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:36 PM
Mar 2017

You can't just arrest people because you "know" something. You have to have actual direct evidence, and no Adam Schiff saying he's seen more than circumstantial evidence doesn't count. After all Trump at one point had a "very credible source" that Obama's birth certificate was fake.

Actual evidence of actual crimes.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. No. They are taking no interest in anything at all, none, zero, zip, nada. They don't even work.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:39 PM
Mar 2017


Indeed, you are right, you don't get it. They don't broadcast what they are doing or they would be ineffectual. They are acting and you are not paying close enough attention, or you would see the signs. Why do you suppose the WH had to order document retention? Why is there a FISA warrant? Why did Comey say Trump associates are targets?

This is huge. The biggest constitutional crisis in our history is unfolding. But, you don't get it. do you? Right.
 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
8. Don't mythologize the FBI
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:41 PM
Mar 2017

They're just cops. I wouldn't assume that they have any interest in going after Trump on their own.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Patience is definitely a virtue here. Look at how Nunes outed himself last week.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:37 AM
Mar 2017

He might just as well have held up a sign that read, "Hey! FBI! Don't forget to include me!"
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mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
13. It's getting tougher every day
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:56 AM
Mar 2017

for me to stay patient with our environment and democracy being dismantled more and more each day.

Have to though...no other choice.

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