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spanone

(135,875 posts)
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:07 PM Mar 2017

Ivanka's role raises red flags

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(CNN)Despite previously stating that she would not take on an official role in her father's administration, Ivanka Trump is now moving into an advisory position as a government employee in the White House.

Just like Donald Trump, Ivanka has significant conflicts of interests -- both nationally and internationally -- to navigate around, and her entry into the West Wing raises major ethical red flags we cannot ignore.

And since there is little precedent for a daughter serving in the White House, Ivanka may benefit from weak accountability mechanisms, which allow her to take full advantage of her new position as an unpaid employee working in the West Wing.

The move grants Ivanka security clearance, access to classified information and a government-issued handheld device. Despite not receiving an official title or salary, Ivanka has been formally placed at the center of her father's administration.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/21/opinions/ivanka-move-west-wing-opinion-hossain/index.html
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Ivanka's role raises red flags (Original Post) spanone Mar 2017 OP
KR! Cha Mar 2017 #1
she's there as his keeper Cha Mar 2017 #2
And, I suspect, his right-hand woman. tenorly Mar 2017 #24
Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #3
My hope and dream is to see tge media treat Trump & co. as if they were democrats. AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #4
The conflicts of interest will be ignored GP6971 Mar 2017 #5
Also, Rachal Maddow had mentioned on one of her shows that Carl Icahn was a Trump Advisor politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2017 #25
There are no words for these goons malaise Mar 2017 #6
who the fuck is this family? no one elected a family. jeeebuzz spanone Mar 2017 #13
it's so unfair to others who have to work , struggle, and campaign for their positions luvMIdog Mar 2017 #7
So we've got this Russian woman Ivanka and her rich husband running the country dalton99a Mar 2017 #8
She is not remotely Russian. former9thward Mar 2017 #21
I know that dalton99a Mar 2017 #26
You throw out an insult but want nothing in return. former9thward Mar 2017 #39
I am beginning to think that Ivanka and her husband Jared are the de facto smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #9
He listens to her and Jared above anyone else. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #11
She is a freaking snake! mshasta Mar 2017 #10
That's what I think too. 58Sunliner Mar 2017 #37
It's probably good to have someone there as a keeper. Not best choice, but. Hoyt Mar 2017 #12
It stinkes to high heaven. GoCubsGo Mar 2017 #14
She'll have quite a business advantage with all the intel SHRED Mar 2017 #15
It's all about executive privilege ashredux Mar 2017 #16
Bingo!!! Nictuku Mar 2017 #40
This is also a way zentrum Mar 2017 #17
The Trump/Kushner MontanaMama Mar 2017 #28
Everything any of zentrum Mar 2017 #32
Yes. MontanaMama Mar 2017 #34
meanwhile, Trump's roll is raising his beltline almost to his nipplage Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #18
I feel a duty: Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #20
I haven't watche Mr Creosote in years!! MontanaMama Mar 2017 #29
he's now waffer thin! Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #36
Does she have a need to know? No? Then she does not get a clearance. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2017 #19
Melania does not want to live wth him so he needs a family pretense. keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #22
well he needs somebody to sit on his lap snooper2 Mar 2017 #41
Friendship hug for wife, sexually intimate hug for daughter keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #42
Another Russian connection? kentuck Mar 2017 #23
I thought we went to war because we didn't want to live in a country ruled by a Monarchy? napi21 Mar 2017 #27
Maybe after ivanka's second term, we'll have good government again Bucky Mar 2017 #33
This situation with Ivanka is wrong. nt PufPuf23 Mar 2017 #30
She's probably not getting paid because of 45's freeze on federal hiring! k8conant Mar 2017 #35
Actually it's a blue, white, and red flag the Trumps work for now Bucky Mar 2017 #31
I have read several posts in different threads where people think she's ok because she is 58Sunliner Mar 2017 #38

Response to spanone (Original post)

GP6971

(31,207 posts)
5. The conflicts of interest will be ignored
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:22 PM
Mar 2017

We've been down this road before and it's a dead end as far as anything being done about it.

Just like Donald Trump, Ivanka has significant conflicts of interests -- both nationally and internationally -- to navigate around, and her entry into the West Wing raises major ethical red flags we cannot ignore.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
25. Also, Rachal Maddow had mentioned on one of her shows that Carl Icahn was a Trump Advisor
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:35 PM
Mar 2017

and that he chose the role of Special advisor when as a close personal friend of Trumps, he could have had any role he wanted in the Trump White House. She stated as an Advisor you are not required to make the same Disclosures and there is no confirmation process, so you don't have to disclose anything and no one has a right to review any of your personal business holdings for conflict and there is no requirement to divest for any of your personal holdings.

One of Icahn's first actions as Trump's Advisor was to recommend a change in a regulation of which Icahn stands to gain $250M from.

Late in the day on Feb. 27, Michael McAdams’s phone lit up with a flurry of calls and messages. McAdams runs a biofuels trade group, and in the arcane world of fuel policy, the news couldn’t have been bigger: The White House was considering a radical change to the U.S. renewable fuel mandate, which governs the amount of ethanol blended into the country’s gasoline supply. To the surprise of many, the Renewable Fuels Association (RFA), a major trade group that represents ethanol producers, was dropping its opposition to the proposal, which would shift the responsibility for meeting biofuel quotas away from refineries. “I nearly fell out of my chair,” says McAdams.

By the time he got to the office the next morning, McAdams had messages from most of his 33 members, who were worried the proposal would upend the biofuel market and dry up demand for their products. It took him almost two days to get back to them all and try to explain what was happening, to the degree that he even knew himself. “We’re in an information void,” he says. “There’s a vacuum here on who the hell is running what.”

The answer is, Carl Icahn is running things. Since Election Day, the billionaire New York investor has emerged as the most powerful person in the $24 billion ethanol industry. That’s due in part to his stake in two oil refineries, but mostly it’s because of his relationship with President Donald Trump. Icahn has known Trump for more than two decades and was an early supporter during the campaign. Trump rewarded Icahn in December by making him special adviser to the president on regulatory reform, giving Icahn the perfect platform to influence federal policies that affect his $20 billion business empire. ...

...Icahn makes no apologies for this. Sipping a glass of pineapple juice in his 47th floor corner office on March 9, the 81-year-old investor says he’s surprised by all the controversy, which he sees as a fake issue generated by well-funded opponents. “I have a right to talk to the president like any other citizen,” he says. “Especially if I think he respects me, why the hell shouldn’t I call him?.?… It may sound corny to you, but I think doing certain things helps the country a lot. And yeah, it helps me. I’m not apologizing for that.”

Icahn would seem to inhabit an extraordinary position of privilege in the Trump administration. Except that he’s not technically a part of the administration. As a special adviser, he’s not a government employee and receives no compensation. That means he doesn’t have to relinquish any of his vast financial holdings, nor is he subject to federal ethics rules that typically apply to people who work for the president.

Every part of Icahn’s portfolio is touched by government regulation. There’s American International Group Inc., subject to strict federal oversight under a 2010 law Trump says he’ll revise; Federal-Mogul Holdings Corp., an auto parts maker with plants in China and Mexico; and Herbalife Ltd., a multilevel marketer facing a May deadline to comply with a Federal Trade Commission settlement. Says Slocum: “This is the purest definition of a conflict of interest that you can get.”

The bottom line: As special adviser to Trump, Icahn can influence regulatory policies that affect his $20 billion portfolio without violating ethics rules.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-16/trump-adviser-carl-icahn-lobbies-for-rule-change-that-benefits-icahn

dalton99a

(81,589 posts)
8. So we've got this Russian woman Ivanka and her rich husband running the country
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:35 PM
Mar 2017

like a family business

former9thward

(32,081 posts)
21. She is not remotely Russian.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:33 PM
Mar 2017

Do you think anyone with a name strange to you is Russian? Your ignorance is showing...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. I am beginning to think that Ivanka and her husband Jared are the de facto
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:47 PM
Mar 2017

King and Queen of the United States.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. He listens to her and Jared above anyone else.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:36 PM
Mar 2017

In a sense they can serve as a buffer for him.
That won't stop Bannon and his gang from doing nefarious deeds, which eventually Trump will be accountable for.

mshasta

(2,108 posts)
10. She is a freaking snake!
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:52 PM
Mar 2017

slowly navigating her self inside the WH... like snake with predatory moves changing skin as she advances, keeping that fake smile until she snaps!

first playing renting a house in Washington DC,
now an office inside the White House,
next in few months the bigger price ....Secretary of the State ...that is why she is sticking her freakin head in very freaking`meeting with world leaders ... testing waters, getting ready .

is not about advising that idiot, is all about complete control of the most powerful nation with all its benefit$$


GoCubsGo

(32,093 posts)
14. It stinkes to high heaven.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:51 PM
Mar 2017

I cannot believe nobody is making an issue of this. It's bad enough her asshole husband has a spot in the administration as it is.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
17. This is also a way
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:16 PM
Mar 2017

....to make the cost of her security in DC, NY, Florida, Aspen and God knows where else, easier to hide and/or justify.

The Trumps are a complete rip off of our government.

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
28. The Trump/Kushner
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:43 PM
Mar 2017

angle is a complete grift. The Bannon angle is another entity aiming at absolute power and chaos. Both of them are a disaster for our country.

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
34. Yes.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:54 PM
Mar 2017

Yes and yes. It seems they trot ivanka out whenever things really begin to stink. For some reason she hasn't yet tarnished in the public eye. I wonder if this move coincides with Jared's upcoming testimony?

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
18. meanwhile, Trump's roll is raising his beltline almost to his nipplage
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:21 PM
Mar 2017

he's SOOOOO fat!

catching up with this guy:

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,611 posts)
19. Does she have a need to know? No? Then she does not get a clearance.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:21 PM
Mar 2017

You're not supposed to get one automatically.

keithbvadu2

(36,910 posts)
22. Melania does not want to live wth him so he needs a family pretense.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:50 PM
Mar 2017

First I typed "love" and corrected it.

Maybe I was correct to begin with.

keithbvadu2

(36,910 posts)
42. Friendship hug for wife, sexually intimate hug for daughter
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:13 PM
Mar 2017

Friendship hug for wife, sexually intimate hug for daughter

Body Language Expert Weighs In on Donald Trump’s Awkward RNC Stage Hugs With Melania and Ivanka

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-awkwardly-hugs-melania-ivanka-expert-weighs-in-w430543


Dr. Oz Edits Out Creepy Trump Comments About Kissing His Daughter

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http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/15/dr-oz-edits-creepy-trump-comments-kissing-daughter.html

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napi21

(45,806 posts)
27. I thought we went to war because we didn't want to live in a country ruled by a Monarchy?
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:40 PM
Mar 2017

The WH is looking like there are more relatives working there than in the home of the Royal family! Hell, when is he going to bring in the former wives?

Grrrrrrrrr........I don't know if I will survive the next 4 years!

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
33. Maybe after ivanka's second term, we'll have good government again
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:51 PM
Mar 2017

Either under Chelsea or under one of Jeb's kids

I mean, at least it's an elective dynastic monarchy.

58Sunliner

(4,398 posts)
38. I have read several posts in different threads where people think she's ok because she is
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 01:07 AM
Mar 2017

a stabilizing influence. She is not ok. She is friends with people who look the other way at people being ripped off, raped, murdered, and citizens suppressed on a massive scale. She is by definition pathological like her father. And just where is that "stabilizing influence" in play? I think these assumptions are the product of denial and sexism. It's hard to fathom that she must at some level be a lot like him to be right next to him, right behind him. Just imagine that she lies every time she speaks. I wonder what it will take for people to see her as she really is, by her actions.

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