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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAngus King hits the bullseye with AC 360, re Russian hacking into VOTING machines!
somebody actually brought this out in the open.
talked about how they tried getting into local voting systems, but failed (AFATK)
he went on to say that Putin isn't attached at the hip to that person at 1600, and could easily turn his sights on him, rendering, effectively, our democracy meaningless, which it pretty much already is
but I digress....
and THIS!!!!!!
Rachel just showed a graphic that demonstrated that ONLY 53 percent of americans thought that it should resign if it were proven that it colluded with the Russians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)First off, I'm still in the conspiratorial camp, because I don't know for sure that the ruskies didn't do something to our voting machines. I've spoken to people who said if they had tampered with our voting machines, they'd have made sure tRumputin their puppet would have won by a landslide, because of putin's hatred and fear of Hillary Clinton. I say to that: the ruskies only needed for tRumputin to get the number of electoral college votes that were NECESSARY for him to win the presidency. With GOP voter-purging, voter-suppressing, voter-crosschecking, it got tRumputin a win of the swing states he needed. How are we to know if the ruskies haven't been told per tRumputin via their back door channels to "gear up" for the 2018 and 2020 elections?
Secondly, and if I understand this correctly, Chairman Burr of the Senate Intel Committee said that the scope of their investigations will be extremely limited, and that if russia's still perhaps somehow involved/colluding with his puppet tRumputin--it's up to the press to ferret that out.
Finally, we have that pro-tRumputin House Intel Chair hack Nunes slow-walking everything concerning House investigations whose hiding something major. It's crystal clear that Nunes wants House investigations to "just go away." but Schiff said that's NOT going to happen. Nunes of course doesn't want Sally Yates anywhere NEAR a microphone testifying, nor does he want anything dealing with investigation into the tRumputin money trail, because following tRumps money trail will be a big piece of the puzzle which will hopefully aid in blowing tRumputin and this Kremlin KKKlan up.
Dan
(3,579 posts)Or their American co-workers were able to get access to personnel with the authorization and permissions to ensure authentication into Election Servers - then it is possible to change data thus changing election results. If I obtain the access rights to a supervisor/manager of an elections department, and I have the ability to access the election database via some server manager, then I can change the results.... it is not rocket science. The computers are doing the counting, not people unless you are looking at special ballots. Prior to the election the various states perform what is called an Logic and accuracy (in laymen' terms a software validation) test - to ensure that sample ballots process correctly. Once certified as accurate and valid - then the software (tabulation) is not updated or changed. But, that has nothing to do with editing the raw data that is used as input to the tabulation process.
In theory, until there is at least a process where the voter is able to validate how they voted against the actual reported voting results - the counters are in control. I have often heard how difficult that is - providing this validation...it is not. In theory, each person voting should receive a copy of their ballot inputs - with its' secure identification. Then, the voting results could be printed or provided online - where a person could login or view (news paper results) using their secure identication # to ensure that the official results corresponds to their ballot results. Nothing is sacrificed BUT what it does provide is a method for each voter to ensure his/her ballot is counted correctly. If there is a discrepancy - then it becomes known.
My thoughts... hope it makes sense, and I hope that my memory is correct.
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)much a traitor as his namesake
just watch what happens to that committee
I could be wrong, but he's on record as being totally behind the coverup, with actions and statements that back up this assertion, if you care to look a nanometer behind the lines, or lies, if I may
triron
(22,020 posts)regarding 53% thought Trumpy should resign...I thought about that; perhaps most of the the 47% who thought otherwise did not accept the premise? Most people aren't logicians.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)who knows, given the obvious mental deficit with which a LARGE portion of the populous has become afflicted
wonder what Mike Judge thinks about all this.........
Cha
(297,655 posts)stuff, Gabi.
he went on to say that Putin isn't attached at the hip to that person at 1600, and could easily turn his sights on him, rendering, effectively, our democracy meaningless, which it pretty much already is
53% is low.. even tho it's the majority.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)ever heard of Rich Media, Poor Democracy?
Robert McChesney put the concentration of media as a prime force in making the gap between rich and poor more horrendous as time goes on
he used to have a sunday radio show out of UofI Champaign, but I stopped listening, as it was too depressing.
what the FFFFFFFFFFF am i doing here????????????