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(61,696 posts)Bring them all down!
Then lock them up!
I can't wait to see how this ends
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,027 posts)We don't want Ryan as President, but he doesn't want it now either because he wants to be 2024's Reagan to 2020's version of Carter.
If tRump & Pence go one by one, the one or the other will appoint VP successors and Ryan can politely decline if offered.
But if they both get incapacitated at the same time, per 25th Amendment, Ryan gets forced in automatically as President by the line of succession. Then he could resign but that would eliminate his chances of being Pres ever again. If he doesn't resign, then he becomes 2018's Ford and serves a two year term only.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)more loathsome than trump:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028129628
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)!!!!!!!!!!
https://tcf.org/content/commentary/trump-white-house-spying-fbi/
this is what she's reading
gotta read to the end to get the point..........
This week it emerged that Nunes had met his whistleblowers on the grounds of the White House. That meant he left 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, caught a ride to the Capitol, held a news conference, and only then drove back to the White House to deliver the ostensibly urgent news to President Trump. Today we learned definitively that the whole performance was a charade.
The intelligence chairmans sources, according to the New York Times, were a pair of Trump appointees: Ezra Cohen-Watnick, a detailee from the Defense Intelligence Agency who is senior director for intelligence at the National Security Council, and Michael Ellis, an assistant White House counsel for national security affairs. They are not just any presidential appointees. National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster recently tried to fire Cohen-Watnick, a holdover selected by his predecessor, Michael Flynn, and Trump himself ordered McMaster to stand down. Ellis, the White House lawyer, used to work for Nunes on the intelligence committee.
If the Times report is accurate, there seem to be two significant breaches of the rules governing classified information. I stipulate that I am not an ideal messenger here, given my role in Ed Snowdens NSA disclosures, and I also stipulate that news organizations are using classified leaks to track the Russia investigation. But journalists are not generally bound by secrecy regulations, and sometimes we cannot do our jobs without publishing classified facts. This case is different. Three named officialstwo Trump appointees and arguably his leading defender on the Hillappear to have engaged in precisely the behavior that the president describes as the true national security threat posed by the Russia debate. Secrecy regulations, including SF312, the Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement, do not permit Ellis and Cohen-Watnick to distribute sensitive compartmented information through a back channel to Nunes. This is true, and their conduct no less an offense, even though Nunes holds clearances sufficient to receive the information through proper channels. The offense, which in some cases can be prosecuted as a felony, would apply even if the White House officials showed Nunes only tearsheet summaries of the surveillance reports. Based on what Nunes has said in public, they appear to have showed him the more sensitive verbatim transcripts. Those are always classified as TS/SI (special intelligence) or TS/COMINT (communications intelligence), which means that they could reveal sources and methods if disclosed. That is the first apparent breach of secrecy rules. The second, of course, is the impromptu Nunes news conference. There is no unclassified way to speak in public about the identity of a target or an incidentally collected communicant in a surveillance operation.
malaise
(269,144 posts)The Con thinks this is his Atlantic City casino shakedown
NBachers
(17,133 posts)The sound was composed by longtime TV composer Mike Post. Post told Entertainment Weekly back in 1993 that he envisioned the effect as a stylized sound of a jail cell locking.
Maraya1969
(22,490 posts)Somehow by doing what he did he may have compromised the US's ability to gather intelligence and perhaps put people in danger?
He sounds like a Putin puppet that wants to destabilize the US just like the ones in Europe are doing.
These people scare the shit out of me.
babylonsister
(171,079 posts)malaise
(269,144 posts)duncang
(1,907 posts)But what happens if both the prez and vice prez are booted at the same time?
Would it be the turtle as prez and someone nominated by the senate for vice prez?
eleny
(46,166 posts)Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)Her demolishing him I definitely can...
Maraya1969
(22,490 posts)even after the thief president takes over then the legitimate winner should be placed in office and the other sent packing.
Not only did the steal the presidency that caused us to loose all sorts of seats in Congress and the Senate. Remember how all the statisticians were saying that we could have easily taken back the Senate and gained a whole bunch of seats in Congress?
And then it didn't happen, just like Hillary.
They stole it - history will absolve me
dae
(3,396 posts)Christie but Manafort & Pence squeezed him hard.
That speaks volumes
DeminPennswoods
(15,289 posts)the connection is between Manafort and Pence.