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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:25 PM Mar 2017

Why Were Three White House Officials Trawling Through Highly Classified Documents?

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/03/why-were-three-white-house-officials-trawling-through-highly-classified-documents


Why Were Three White House Officials Trawling Through Highly Classified Documents?

Kevin Drum
Mar. 31, 2017 10:57 AM


Now there are three people involved in revealing classified information to Rep. Devin Nunes:

One of those involved in procuring the documents cited by Nunes has close ties to former national security adviser Michael Flynn. The official, Ezra Cohen, survived a recent attempt to oust him from his White House job by appealing to Trump advisers Jared Kushner and Stephen K. Bannon, the officials said....After assembling reports that showed that Trump campaign officials were mentioned or inadvertently monitored by U.S. spy agencies targeting foreign individuals, Cohen took the matter to the top lawyer for the National Security Council, John Eisenberg.

The third White House official involved was identified as Michael Ellis, a lawyer who previously worked with Nunes on the House Intelligence Committee but joined the Trump administration as an attorney who reports to Eisenberg.


This is an amazingly far-reaching conspiracy considering that the documents don't actually seem to have contained anything very interesting. You'd think that at some point one of these guys would have the common sense to call off this Keystone Cops affair.

And as long as we've mentioned Michael Flynn, here's the latest on him:

Michael T. Flynn, the former national security adviser, has offered to be interviewed by House and Senate investigators who are examining the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in exchange for immunity from prosecution, according to his lawyer and a congressional official.


I didn't bother mentioning this yesterday because, frankly, I sort of figured that Flynn was hoping for immunity and then wouldn't say anything very interesting. Last night Josh Marshall opined that "you only get immunity if you deliver someone else higher up the ladder," but this morning he seems to have changed his mind:

Flynn's lawyer states rather grandly that his client "has a story to tell and ... very much wants to tell it." But Alex Whiting of Harvard Law School argues pretty convincingly that what we learned last night likely means either that Flynn doesn't have a story prosecutors are willing to barter for or isn't yet willing to tell it.

So probably Flynn doesn't have much to say after all. Which gets us back to the clowns in the White House. What were they doing trawling through highly classified reports anyway? Barton Gellman says this is the key unanswered question so far, and it's related to the allegation that some of the names in the reports had been unmasked, something that happens only if a "customer" asks for it:

If Nunes saw reports that named Trump or his associates, as he said, the initiative for naming names did not come from the originating intelligence agency. That is not how the process works. The names could only have been unmasked if the customers—who seem in this case to have been Trump’s White House appointees—made that request themselves. If anyone breached the president’s privacy, the perpetrators were working down the hall from him. (Okay, probably in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building next door.) It is of course hypocritical, even deceptive, for Nunes to lay that blame at the feet of intelligence officials, but that is not the central concern either.

If events took place as just described, then what exactly were Trump’s appointees doing? I am not talking only about the political chore of ginning up (ostensible) support for the president’s baseless claims about illegal surveillance by President Obama. I mean this: why would a White House lawyer and the top White House intelligence adviser be requesting copies of these surveillance reports in the first place? Why would they go on to ask that the names be unmasked? There is no chance that the FBI would brief them about the substance or progress of its investigation into the Trump campaign’s connections to the Russian government. Were the president’s men using the surveillance assets of the U.S. government to track the FBI investigation from the outside?

That reference at the end to "the president's men" is no coincidence. This whole thing looks more Watergate-ish by the day. Maybe it's time to start calling it Russiagate.
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Why Were Three White House Officials Trawling Through Highly Classified Documents? (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2017 OP
I wouldn't be surprised if they were looking for dirt on Hillary. lapucelle Mar 2017 #1
This was recently. nt babylonsister Mar 2017 #4
I know, but a new Hillary investigation lapucelle Mar 2017 #5
Why would the press buy into it? She's out of the picture; babylonsister Mar 2017 #6
For the same reason the NYT and WaPo made deals lapucelle Mar 2017 #9
That was then; Clinton was prez. This is now. dt is about to get babylonsister Mar 2017 #11
Yes, I know when it started. lapucelle Mar 2017 #14
I think part of it is desperation to find anything that could back up Trumpy's "Obama spied on me!!! Lucinda Mar 2017 #2
Excellent piece... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #3
Laws & Rules do not apply to the Con malaise Mar 2017 #7
That last line canetoad Mar 2017 #8
Hello!!! babylonsister Mar 2017 #12
Me neither! canetoad Mar 2017 #15
Aww, babylonsister Mar 2017 #16
Maybe I'm being naive here ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #10
Well, there's this... babylonsister Mar 2017 #13
There is that ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #17
They are looking for anything that will stick to the wall... kentuck Apr 2017 #18
They looked like scattering cockroaches when questioned by the press jeanmarc Apr 2017 #19

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
5. I know, but a new Hillary investigation
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:03 PM
Mar 2017

would be the ultimate distraction, and the press would buy right into it. The bogus "selling uranium" narrative has just re-emerged, and I've heard more than one right wing pundit suggest this week that it deserves further investigation.

babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
6. Why would the press buy into it? She's out of the picture;
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:05 PM
Mar 2017

they're grasping at straws with those theories. Distraction!

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
9. For the same reason the NYT and WaPo made deals
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:16 PM
Mar 2017

for the rights to exclusive access to research for the discredited Clinton Cash book in exchange for advancing the author's "story lines": clicks and ratings

Journalists are fools for scandal when it come to the Clintons. They can't help themselves. And it would also help to exonerate the press for their part in putting Trump in the White House by continually equating Hillary's mistakes with Trump's crimes.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/arkansas/whitewater/lyonsarticle.html

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
2. I think part of it is desperation to find anything that could back up Trumpy's "Obama spied on me!!!
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:42 PM
Mar 2017

claim...Trump does not like to be called out when he is wrong.

Docreed2003

(16,861 posts)
3. Excellent piece...
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:44 PM
Mar 2017

I think the only part that is missing is this: Nunes was contacted that night to inform him that he too, in his role on the transition team, was on those tapes. Why else would he rush to the WH at night?

canetoad

(17,167 posts)
8. That last line
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:10 PM
Mar 2017
Were the president’s men using the surveillance assets of the U.S. government to track the FBI investigation from the outside?

Or was someone INSIDE the FBI passing on the information?

Hey Sis

canetoad

(17,167 posts)
15. Me neither!
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 10:11 PM
Mar 2017

And because I have the luxury of not being too directly affected (well, I will be if he starts a war) I'm savouring his downfall. Don't care if it is slow and exquisitely tortuous, we will see him shamed and humiliated. Him and his spawn.

babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
16. Aww,
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 10:13 PM
Mar 2017

I miss our chats, a long time ago. You helped me immensely! I will never forget that.

And most of us here are chomping at the bit to get this done. We Can't Take dt!

Drama, the thing as I got older I wanted less of in my life. Go figure.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
10. Maybe I'm being naive here
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:18 PM
Mar 2017

What surveillance assets within the WH are equal to the FBI? That is, of course, assuming that they really did find something of value.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. There is that
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:43 PM
Mar 2017

And again, this may sound ignorant. The NSC has some intelligence capability but the person whom I would consider the main source for its intelligence, Coats, was removed. I'll admit that I am not getting all the nuances of our intelligence system. I guess my question is whether someone in the NSC has the power to unmask names. The other thing that I don't understand is that this was a single document that suddenly "came to light". If its discovery was in coordination with the FBI probe (the counter intelligence running concomitantly with the FBI probe), then this still leads us back to there being a leak somewhere in the FBI. How else would they know what documents the FBI was looking through at the time?

My head hurts now. I give up.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
18. They are looking for anything that will stick to the wall...
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 12:15 AM
Apr 2017

so they can jump on it and distract the people from the truth they are seeking.

jeanmarc

(1,685 posts)
19. They looked like scattering cockroaches when questioned by the press
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 12:21 AM
Apr 2017

'No I don't know'.

These idiots need to put under oath.

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