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Mandate mythsThats not true. Over 80%* of Americans have insurance through their employers or receive insurance because they are in the military or are veterans or are poor or old. No one in these categories is required to buy individual insurance.
(Actually no one at all has to buy health insurance because, if they fall under that provision and dont buy it, they can pay the penalty instead. The penalty is far cheaper than the cost of insurance.)
*81% of Americans under 65 have insurance. People over 65 have single-payer coverage; i.e., Medicare (with some holding additional private insurance).
Myth 2: People who dont have insurance will be forced to buy insurance they cant afford.
This is also untrue.
People with the lowest incomes are covered under Medicaid, which was expanded by the ACA for those with incomes up to 133% of the poverty level.
For those with incomes between 133% and 400% of the poverty level, subsidies are available so they can afford to buy health coverage in the new health care exchange.
There is a hardship exemption for those who dont have insurance and say they cant afford it.
And, as noted under myth 1, no one actually must buy health insurance, since they can pay the penalty instead.
(Please Go To Pollways Link For Other Myths, very informative)
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ACA Provisions
The ACA makes dramatic changes to the way millions of Americans access health care. This comprehensive reform of health insurance attempts to make insurance more affordable, higher in quality and more accessible for people. It also expands Medicaid, imposes new responsibilities on individuals to purchase insurance and provides new incentives for employers to provide insurance for their employees. Together, these changes are estimated to expand coverage to 32 million people who were previously uninsured.
Insurance reforms
Beginning in 2014, the ACA requires health insurers to accept all applicants for insurance, regardless of their health status. In addition, insurers will no longer be allowed to charge higher premiums or exclude benefits because someone has a pre-existing condition. Most insurers will also be required to provide coverage that meets federal standards for benefits and cost-sharing.
As of September 23, 2010, a number of insurance reforms went into effect, including requiring insurers to:
Cover certain preventive services without deductibles or cost-sharing
Allow parents to keep adult children up to age 26 on their insurance
Cover all children under the age of 19, regardless of health status
Create an internal and external appeals process to handle consumer complaints and denials
Eliminate lifetime limits on benefits and significantly raise the annual limits for benefits (eventually it will also eliminate annual limits)
Spend a minimum of 80 percent of premiums on medical services and quality improvement
Justify unreasonable premium increases
Eliminate the practice of rescissions (when a health plan retroactively cancels coverage after the enrollee gets sick)
Allow patients to choose their health care professional as a primary care provide
Much more on ACA Provisions at community catalyst here
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Without question, uninsured Americans will be most affected by health care reform. If you dont have health insurance because youre unemployed or dont make enough to afford it, youre going to get a subsidy to help cover the cost of coverage. The subsidy will be based on your income, but the result will be that at least 30 million people who couldnt afford insurance will now theoretically be able to.
And if you have lingering doubts that this group of people really needed the governments help, check out a couple of news stories we recently did about how the uninsured suffer:
This one is called Killer Hospital Bills: its about an uninsured woman went to the emergency room with stomach pains and emerged hours later with a $12,000 bill.
And heres one about a senior citizen who had to file bankruptcy because of health costs.
So the news is good for uninsured Americans who needed and wanted coverage, but theres another group of uninsured who may not be so happy: those that can afford insurance but choose to forgo the expense by going without. In an effort to encourage all Americans to have health insurance, beginning in 2014 these people will face fines for that kind of risk-taking. The proposed fine is 2.5% of income, up to $2,085, so the incentive to have insurance will be powerful.
More at MoneyTalksNewshere
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Affordable Care Act: Opportunities for the Aging Network
http://aoa.gov/Aging_Statistics/Health_care_reform.aspx
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Link to the Affordable Care Act (Full Law) here
Link to Affordable Care Act (Amendments) here
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Here is a nifty tool from WaPo that you can use to determine how your family might be affected by ACA.
The court's decision to uphold all but one component of the health-care law means new rules for insurers that have already taken effect will remain in place. Beginning in 2014, virtually all Americans will have to obtain health insurance or pay a penalty. There also will be new opportunities to get coverage, including state-based marketplaces known as exchanges* (through which individuals will be able to purchase private plans that meet strict benchmarks for quality) and federal subsidies to help low-income people buy plans on the exchanges. The law will also expand the eligibility rules for Medicaid, but the Court found that states can not be penalized if they decline to comply with the expansion, raising questions as to how effectively the federal government will be able to implement it.
Take the quiz at the link and find out
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http://www.healthcare.gov/ is an excellent source of info and policy plans available to you.
Thank you Honeycombe8 for pointing out this one.
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The Affordable Care Act is a step in the right direction. With it in place I believe it will be easier to progress to single payer in the future. The purpose of this OP is for anyone who might not know what all is in the ACA and how it might affect them.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002888869
YellowRubberDuckie
(19,736 posts)...I found a link to it and said, here READ THE DAMNED THING. People have shut up or unfriended me. I don't care, honestly. I'm just SICK of people lying.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)the amount of misinformation out there, some of it done purposefully.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)thank you so much for that link! I'm going to add it to the OP
Skittles
(153,205 posts)just curious
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)I know that the IRS can file a tax lien for failure to pay taxes and that does affect your credit score for 7 years I believe.
However I'm not sure if it will be applicable here. I'll do some research on it.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)Semtex
(21 posts)Links to www.healthcare.gov on my Facebook page so people can inform themselves better about what this law is going to mean to them, rather then to believe the talking points that the right is trying to throw out..usually in the form of a threat.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)trying really hard to spread misinformation about the ACA. They failed with the Supreme Court, so misinformation is all they have. They are so afraid the public will start to see what an improvement the bill really is over what we had. Is it perfect? no, but it is a vast improvement.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Yeah, for me, it's about $844. The $700 I get back every year that helps me from going bankrupt each year.
Looks like I'll probably be able to get into the exchange (maybe) and pay $4,180 for insurance. Which I can't afford. That's $1,000 a quarter, or about $300 plus every month. So I will have $844 taken from me every year. And have no insurance.
Yay.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)I didn't even mention the money I would spend on deductibles.
How do I determine the "least expensive plan option in" my area? Is it some near-worthless insurance? $4,180 is about eight percent of my income, so I MIGHT be exempt from the penalty, but I can't count on that.
I'm hoping that this is wrong and I will be able to afford insurance by 2016 as things improve.
Don't get me wrong. There is much in ACA that is excellent and necessary. Despite being rather disgusted at the lousy strategies and compromises that went into creating it, I am glad it passed and the mandate was upheld. And, yes, there is MASSIVE disinformation out there, and I appreciate your post.
But:
2. Don't BS the public: But Democrats would be foolish to oversell this law. In response to the ruling, the President said today that the Court has "reaffirmed a fundamental principle that here in America -- in the wealthiest nation on Earth no illness or accident should lead to any familys financial ruin." That's the wrong approach for a number of reasons, one of which is that people still feel that they can't afford health care - and they're right.
A majority of those who declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses already have health insurance, and the protections in this law aren't enough to prevent that from happening. Premiums and out-of-pocket costs continue to rise for insured Americans. Health insurance costs rose more last year than they had in six years, to more than $15,000 for a family of four, and they've risen by 50 percent since 2003. Democrats should acknowledge these problems, discuss ways this law will help and, most importantly, promise to do more in the next term.
http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2012062628/dont-kid-yourself-its-still-corporate-court-here-are-10-ways-respond
And I am still seriously considering Canada. Not kidding.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Yeah, for me, it's about $844. The $700 I get back every year that helps me from going bankrupt each year."
...seems a little high for the penalty.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002881604
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)I really can't afford any penalty AT ALL. (That's the increased 2016 penalty, by the way. See my other post.) I'm a contract employee and there are a couple of months in the year when I don't get paid. I also have a large debt load (thanks to the Bush years). The debt load is the main reason I can't afford insurance (some of it was used to pay for insurance in the past). And if I pay a tax penalty, that's taking away money I can use to decrease the debt load.
What I would like to have is health insurance that I can actually afford.
I guess we'll see.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)my deciding to respond here. I took the opportunity to read both of your replies in this sub-thread.
I hope that you will qualify for a subsidy or hardship. I hear you about debt, I think the Bush years have done a lot of damage to all of us in the middle class and the poor. The debt has piled up and I wish you much success decreasing your debt load.
Here's to hoping you qualify
On edit thank you for the link to the article above, I will read it.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)I think I was one of the first here to post the Washington Post "How Will Health Insurance Affect You?" calculator. I think other people will appreciate it.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)I remember seeing the WaPo calculator post here. I think it's a great tool.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)WaPo calculator said $844. I said $700.
All pretty close.
w0nderer
(1,937 posts)bigtree
(86,006 posts)bookmark
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)for going for, in some cases decades, without being examined.
It really going to be an eye opener for a lot of people.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)I think this might be it: http://www.healthinsuranceproviders.com/health-care-reform/
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)You are correct in the link though
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)Just thought it might be helpful.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)thank you
RagAss
(13,832 posts)These fascist bastards will do anything to repeal this law. They will devote the rest of their lives to it !
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)I've noticed that over the past 24 hours a lot of people that were ranting about the ACA are now either really quiet, or asking questions. I think people are starting to see the benefits.
I just hope I live long enough to see the signs someday, "Keep your Government hands off my ACA!!!"
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)I hope it helps
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)impacts, at http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002890826 .
Note that the estimated 10-year total of healthcare TAX CREDITS (tax cuts) for individuals and other exchange-associated costs is FIFTEEN TIMES the estimated $45 billion to be raised over 10 years in individual penalties for not buying health insurance .
Two years ago, it was common for Democrats to point to the hundreds of billions in tax credits as "the largest middle-class tax cut for healthcare in history'. I just don't understand why they stopped and why they're now allowing Republicans to get away with Orwellian LIES abot "tax increases of the middle class".
See http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002890826 for details and a link to a crucial March 2012 table of updated Congressional Budget Office budget estimates for the Affordable Care Act.