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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:24 AM Apr 2017

Trumps in trouble: Republicans may face a massive wave during the 2018 midterms

Trump’s in trouble: Republicans may face a massive wave during the 2018 midterms
The 2018 midterm elections are a long way off, but the early signs are ominous for Trump and the GOP
Matthew Rozsa Monday, Apr 3, 2017 5:44 PM EDT

The Democratic Party has a lot riding on the 2018 midterm elections — and the early polling for President Donald Trump should provide its leaders with hope.

In the last four midterm elections that ended with the party that controls the White House losing one or both houses of Congress, the president had an approval rating below 85 percent among members of his own party and approval ratings among independents that were no higher than in the low 40s percentage range, according to The Cook Political Report. It then pointed out that, according to a recent Gallup survey, Trump’s approval rating among Republicans is at 85 percent, but he is has a treacherous 33 percent rating among independents.

“If he drops a few points among GOPers, Trump’s ratings today would look exactly like those of President George W. Bush right before his party was routed in 2006,” Cook wrote.

http://www.salon.com/2017/04/03/trumps-in-trouble-republicans-may-face-a-massive-wave-during-the-2018-midterms/
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Trumps in trouble: Republicans may face a massive wave during the 2018 midterms (Original Post) workinclasszero Apr 2017 OP
The opposing party generally wins the midterms HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #1
ahhhh yeah rtracey Apr 2017 #6
That's pretty silly. Foamfollower Apr 2017 #8
yeah rtracey Apr 2017 #10
Historically, it's always down. Foamfollower Apr 2017 #11
Whoa . . . JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #2
Trumps in trouble: Republicans may face a massive wave during the 2018 midterms. LenaBaby61 Apr 2017 #3
easy solution...but rtracey Apr 2017 #13
The historical data on this is all fine and well Cosmocat Apr 2017 #4
There's a key factor in gerrymandering districts so the minority party can hold majority power. Foamfollower Apr 2017 #9
We have to seriously sweep both houses and the Supremes MUST STAY HEALTHY. Vinca Apr 2017 #5
I don't want to be a wet mop but that's a long way off. NewDealProgressive Apr 2017 #7
We need to get to work beefing up our cybersecurity before that happens. Initech Apr 2017 #12
I would not be surprised if the 2018 elections are cancelled by the Republicans Zorro Apr 2017 #14
 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
6. ahhhh yeah
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:32 AM
Apr 2017

Mid-term election are notorious for not drawing a large voter population. Count that with the fat ass-ed lazy fucks who just skip voting, the voters who want to prove a point by write-in voting for Mickey Mouse, et al., and just a lack of effort on the part of our party to reach out to the disenfranchised GOP supporters, shows ME (IMO) a major loss for us in 2018, and I think this will put the Senate of 60 votes for the right wingers....if that happens, kiss everything meaningful to democrats goodbye. If this happens,its going to be a long time before this changes. The only way, I see change is in this new generation of young adults coming to the realization that these oldfucks in congress now are hard liner bigots and racists from a bygone era

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
8. That's pretty silly.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:40 AM
Apr 2017

Only one midterm in recent history did not go to the party out of power in the White House, and the circumstances surrounding the 2002 midterms were unique in that we had just suffered a major terrorist attack on US soil, were in a war in Afghanistan, and a steady march to war with Iraq was happening.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
10. yeah
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:49 AM
Apr 2017

Im talking downturn in voting. not silly.... lets see how silly it is, when the senate stays right wing, or at a 60 seat margin.... we can get silly.


PSB Newshour November 10, 2014

Today in the Morning Line:

Just 36.4 percent of eligible voters turned out in 2014
Turnout increased in some places, but decreased in most, including populous states like California, New York and New Jersey
The top 10 best and worst voter participation states of 2014

Lowest turnout since WW2: Final numbers are still being tallied, but at this point it looks pretty clear that turnout in these midterms was the lowest overall in 70 years. Turnout of the voting-eligible population was just 36.4 percent, according to the projection from the United States Elections Project, run by Dr. Michael McDonald at the University of Florida. That’s down from the 41 percent that turned out in 2010. You have to go all the way back to 1942 for lower numbers when turnout in that midterm was just 33.9 percent. They had a pretty good excuse back then — many adult-age Americans were preoccupied with fighting in a world war.

In 10 of the 14, there were competitive to potentially competitive Senate races. In nine of the 14, there were governors’ races. Here’s where turnout increased, ranked by biggest increase:

1. Louisiana: +12.9% (38.9%-43.9%)
2. Nebraska: +10.1% (37.5%-41.3%)
3. Arkansas: +9.9% (37.5%-41.2%)
4. Wisconsin: +9.4% (52.0%-56.9%)
5. Maine: +7.4% (55.2%-59.3%)
6. New Hampshire: +6.8% (45.7%-48.8%)
7. Alaska: +6.6% (51.9%-55.3%)
8. Washington, D.C.: +4.8% (28.9%-30.3%)
9. Colorado: +4.7% (50.6%-53.0%)
10. Kentucky: +4.2% (42.4%-44.2%)
11. North Carolina: +3.8% (39.2%-40.7%)
12. Florida: +3.4% (41.7%-43.1%)
13. Kansas: +2.6% (41.7%-42.8%)
14. Iowa: +1.4% (49.9%-50.6%)
15. Oregon: +0.2% (52.6%-52.7%)

It was down, though — and by a lot in many places — in 36 others. Here are the top 10 biggest decreases:

1. Missouri: -27.4% (44.5%-32.3%)
2. Washington state: -27.3% (53.1%-38.6%)
3. Delaware: -27% (47.5%- 34.5%)
4. California: -25.5% (44%-32.8%)
5. Indiana: -24.5% (37.1%-28.0%)
6. Oklahoma: -23.2 (38.8%-29.8%)
7. Nevada: -23% (41.3%-31.8%)
8. Alabama: -22.1% (43%-33.5%)
9. Utah: -20.7% (36.3%-28.8%)
10. Mississippi: -19.7% (37%-29.7%)

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
11. Historically, it's always down.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:56 AM
Apr 2017

Moreso for the party that holds the white house than for the party out of power.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
3. Trumps in trouble: Republicans may face a massive wave during the 2018 midterms.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:45 AM
Apr 2017

Here's hoping that tRumputin doesn't "invite" his buddies the ruskies to interfere AGAIN in our elections. It's bad enough that the GOP will be crosschecking, voter-purging and voter-disenfranchising Dems on steroids in 2018, and beauguard won't give a damn if shown evidence of this. But, to have the ruskies being "invited" to once again put their tRump-loving thumbs on our election scales?

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
13. easy solution...but
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 09:30 AM
Apr 2017

Paper ballots and 3 officials, 1 from each party and an independent poll worker counting... sounds tedious,but seems to be able to work. Must be able to have total transparency in vote counting, and no politically related ownership of the voting machines...as we have seen in the past.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
4. The historical data on this is all fine and well
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:52 AM
Apr 2017

but, the challenges to democrats having a big "wave" are far more difficult today:

1) We have the most effectively gerrymandered house districts in our history by far, in favor of republicans. This alone means the dynamics have to be even more significant to get a real shot at getting the House.

2) The slate of races in the senate are the worst for Ds of the 6 year cycle. They have to defend FAR more seats than they have a shot a picking up.

3) Money in politics only gets more pervasive each election, and that money isn't pouring in on average to help democrats.

4) We now are in a era when Russians are the reigning champs at tipping elections of other countries, and once again, they aren't tipping the scales in favor of democrats here in America.

Last point - there is SO much time, and this country is THAT flat fin stupid, there is some event that could somehow be spun to the democrats favor. IF 9-11 had happened under a President Gore - make more mistake, he would have been run out of office in 2004 and we would not have seen another democratic president for decades. BUT, because it was a republican asleep at the wheel at the time, they were were allowed to hammer the country over the heads with it to maintain power for the next 5 years.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
9. There's a key factor in gerrymandering districts so the minority party can hold majority power.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:44 AM
Apr 2017

The districts must be drawn in a way so that the minority party holds ~55% control of their districts while the majority party holds ~65% control in their districts. This was how the gerrymandered mess resulted in GOP control of Congress.

But it's that 85% approval in the GOP that's so important. The Dems can take out some of those 55% GOP controlled districts if GOP voters are demoralized while Dem voters are fired up to put some control over the madman in the white house.

This is the risk in heavily gerrymandering to gain control while your party is a major minority. It can all come crashing down in one election.

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
5. We have to seriously sweep both houses and the Supremes MUST STAY HEALTHY.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:56 AM
Apr 2017

No retirements when Dear Leader is expected to nominate Ted Cruz next time around.

7. I don't want to be a wet mop but that's a long way off.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:35 AM
Apr 2017

Right now I'm most concerned about a Reichstag fire. People scare very easily and right now Тяцмр looks an awful lot like early W.

Don't corner a rat if you can help it.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
12. We need to get to work beefing up our cybersecurity before that happens.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 09:30 AM
Apr 2017

If the Russians stole 2016, you can bet they're already working on 2018.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
14. I would not be surprised if the 2018 elections are cancelled by the Republicans
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 09:36 AM
Apr 2017

due to some "threat" to the country.

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