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edhopper

(33,580 posts)
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:50 AM Apr 2017

Before you count your 2018 chickens

remember all the talk last year that Trump was so reprehensible that Hillary would get a Dem Senate and House.

Stop over estimating the American voter.

2018 will still be a very tough election. Only 8 Republican Senators are running and the House is still heavily gerrymandered.
There is also now no break on voter suppression.

If we aren't realistic, we can't fight this effectively.

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Before you count your 2018 chickens (Original Post) edhopper Apr 2017 OP
+1, we need minimum 5 to 1 for a win... there's nothing to stop the Russians from hacking again uponit7771 Apr 2017 #1
Maybe some senate wins that's it but we need to concentrate on state races also for lunasun Apr 2017 #2
Absolutely true Orrex Apr 2017 #3
THREE Dem votes equals ONE Repub vote. CousinIT Apr 2017 #4
If the Dems can't score a huge win in 2018, they never will... Orsino Apr 2017 #5
The ratio of Dems to Repugs edhopper Apr 2017 #9
The Senate isn't really up for grabs. Orsino Apr 2017 #10
Yup. ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #6
Behind your statement 100%. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #7
Sad, but true... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #8
And don't forget the Russian influence. Bluepinky Apr 2017 #11
That is true edhopper Apr 2017 #12
We need to get to work beefing up our cybersecurity before that happens. Initech Apr 2017 #13

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
2. Maybe some senate wins that's it but we need to concentrate on state races also for
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 09:21 AM
Apr 2017

constitutional preservation. They are very close to the number of states needed

Dec2016
The November election put Republicans in full control of a record number of state legislatures around the country, a level of power that gives the party an unprecedented opportunity: change the U.S. Constitution.

Republicans already control Congress, the White House and more governors' offices than they have in nearly a century. But it's the state legislatures that hold perhaps the greatest promise for lasting change.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-republican-constitution-amendment-20161205-story.html

this is a very important issue and they are trying in many states including mine they only need a few more states!
But yes what eggs? 2018 will not be any big blow out of the house and hard to even make change in the senate imo.

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
3. Absolutely true
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 09:25 AM
Apr 2017

Republicans are already planning for 2020, 2022 and 2024, but it doesn't seem as though Democrats even have a strategy for how to deal with 2016 yet.

CousinIT

(9,245 posts)
4. THREE Dem votes equals ONE Repub vote.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:21 AM
Apr 2017

That's what we're up against ie: gerrymandering - it takes at least THREE Dem votes to equal ONE Repub vote. And it's even worse in many places.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
5. If the Dems can't score a huge win in 2018, they never will...
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:43 AM
Apr 2017

...barring some burst of non-suckage from the Republican side.

Yeah, it'll be tough, but not as tough as every future election will be if the GOP machine isn't stopped by caring voters in 2018.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
10. The Senate isn't really up for grabs.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:56 AM
Apr 2017

And yet we are poised for enormous wins, if such wins are still possible.

And if we don't make 2018 a big GOP rebuke, I don't think we'll get another chance.

Bluepinky

(2,271 posts)
11. And don't forget the Russian influence.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 05:54 AM
Apr 2017

Maybe the Republicans don't want to close it down? It is benefiting them after all.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
13. We need to get to work beefing up our cybersecurity before that happens.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 09:11 AM
Apr 2017

If Russia indeed hacked the 2016 election, what's to stop them from doing it again in 2018?

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