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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 09:12 AM Apr 2017

The Deolorables want to remove the pre-existing condition provision





Throughout the debate to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, President Trump and Republican congressional leaders have insisted they would retain a crucial, popular part of the health law: the promise that people can buy insurance even if they’ve had illnesses in the past.

Their efforts foundered last month, when a House health bill had to be pulled from the floor after it failed to attract enough support. Late Monday night, word emerged that the White House and the group of conservative lawmakers known as the Freedom Caucus had discussed a proposal to revive the bill. But the proposed changes would effectively cast the Affordable Care Act’s pre-existing conditions provision aside.

The terms, described by Representative Mark Meadows, Republican of North Carolina and the head of the Freedom Caucus, are something like this: States would have the option to jettison two major parts of the Affordable Care Act’s insurance regulations. They could decide to opt out of provisions that require insurers to cover a standard, minimum package of benefits, known as the essential health benefits. And they could decide to do away with a rule that requires insurance companies to charge the same price to everyone who is the same age, a provision called community rating.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/upshot/freedom-caucus-health-care-pre-existing-conditions.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0



This sounds like a winner.


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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
7. The Trumpublican drive to repeal and replace ACA
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 09:52 AM
Apr 2017

has become a real "race to the bottom" in order to win votes from the "Freedom-To-Suffer-And-Die Caucus".


Is there any other political party in any other first world nation that is as regressive as the GOP- and isn't considered a minor fringe lunatic party?

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
8. The Deplorables' antisocial experiment, Nazi style, summed up
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:34 AM
Apr 2017

The so-called "Freedom Caucus" (read: white patriarchal privilege gang) is running an experiment which rivals that of the Nazis 80 years ago. I call it "How to commit genocide against as many Americans without actually calling it genocide: by denying Americans life-saving health coverage."

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
10. "Eugenics" is a euphemism for genocide
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 12:11 PM
Apr 2017

Now is not the time to be nice. I prefer to call things by their proper names, and genocidal maniacs describe repunks to a T.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
11. Not really. There is some overlap of goals, means, and ends, but genocide and eugenics are distinct.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 12:26 PM
Apr 2017

Genocide is mass murder of a racial or ethnically identifiable group.

Eugenics is the prevention of the propagation of human genes that are deemed "undesirable", without regard to racial or ethnic background. It was used by the Nazis against people with preexisting conditions including debilitating diseases, mental illness, intellectual challenges, physical disabilities and homosexuality. It is not a euphemism these days, though it was in the 1930s both here and in Nazi Germany.

The two overlap somewhat when certain racial/ethnic groups are deemed to carry a higher proportion of "undesirable" genes.

In the Nazi Third Reich, the two programs were separate and run separately.

In the tRumpian Turd Reich, the Republicons are more subtle and not entirely conscious of the full ramifications of what they are doing. However, the effect is the same, and again there is some overlap in goals, means, and ends.

By denying care for preexisting conditions and making it harder for poor people to get health care other than emergency rooms, the Republicons are making it harder for families of poor and immigrants and people of color. Their theory is that those groups are more likely to vote Democratic and thus if they make it harder for them to have children or survive to have children or survive long enough to care for their children to thrive, then there will be fewer Democratic voters. That's the overlap.

It overlaps with the immigration crackdowns and the intensifying pressure on non-white non-Anglo-named non-hetero non-male people.

By all means, use the proper names, but both fit with nuances and can be used.

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