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Did Anyone Besides Me Have to Look up Gonzaga? (Original Post) MineralMan Apr 2017 OP
My nephew graduated from there... lame54 Apr 2017 #1
I've recognized the name for a long time, MineralMan Apr 2017 #2
I had to be told the name several times... lame54 Apr 2017 #3
That name is pronounced in several different ways by news people. MineralMan Apr 2017 #6
Too many pronounce 'caramel' with 2 syllables. That's always bugged me. randome Apr 2017 #10
ahem. cuz it IS car-mel! ;)) samnsara Apr 2017 #29
So you ignore the second 'a'? Or is it a silent vowel? randome Apr 2017 #48
Me, too. And I live in Washington... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #11
I live 150 miles west! cilla4progress Apr 2017 #4
We're 250 miles east MontanaMama Apr 2017 #9
i did, during the game. the only basketball game i saw all year. well, i saw the last 20 minutes spanone Apr 2017 #5
I had always assumed it was somewhere on the East Coast. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #7
I assumed that, as well. MineralMan Apr 2017 #8
I thought it was the name of a Kilgore Trout novel. Orrex Apr 2017 #12
No. I'm a Washingtonian. We know where it is. Aristus Apr 2017 #13
Speaking of which... Cirque du So-What Apr 2017 #15
We have our own inland empire here. Aristus Apr 2017 #16
And some of the gladium et scutum Apr 2017 #19
And potatoes. Aristus Apr 2017 #21
And an increasingly kick-ass wine industry. nolabear Apr 2017 #25
Yeah. I drink the local wines. Aristus Apr 2017 #31
yep thats right. the closer to the Idaho border... samnsara Apr 2017 #33
Never, ever heard of its religious connection.....Roman Catholic. eom a kennedy Apr 2017 #14
yep its a small private Catholic College. Started in the 70s i think... samnsara Apr 2017 #34
I knew someone who graduated from Gonzage in 1969, PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #40
Founded in 1887. tammywammy Apr 2017 #47
Bing Crosby was a grad Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #66
Jesuit, actually jmowreader Apr 2017 #67
Roman Catholic, yes, but... RealityChik Apr 2017 #74
John Stockton of the Utah Jazz was a graduate. They have quite a bit of memorabilia of his, GentryDixon Apr 2017 #17
Spokane the gateway to Trump country Juliusseizure Apr 2017 #18
You've got that right. Aristus Apr 2017 #23
...beginnin's of Bundy country as you travel eastwards... samnsara Apr 2017 #39
And every bit of that is west of the Cascades jmowreader Apr 2017 #71
They have been in NCAA tournaments for OldHippieChick Apr 2017 #20
Ditto John1956PA Apr 2017 #35
Yes, they were the Cinderella team in an NCAA tourney in the 80s, I believe. Demit Apr 2017 #61
I did. But I don't follow sports. I looked it up only because I saw they would tblue37 Apr 2017 #22
My grandson is a Junior, there. demosincebirth Apr 2017 #24
My sister went to Pepperdine so we knew about them Caliman73 Apr 2017 #26
You know, I never really realized that the entire conference was private/religious rufus dog Apr 2017 #45
Yes they are. Most are very good schools too. Caliman73 Apr 2017 #50
UCLA is a great school too rufus dog Apr 2017 #54
I know someone who went there. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #27
i live in Wash State so .... samnsara Apr 2017 #28
I knew what and where it is but only because OriginalGeek Apr 2017 #30
Sister n law works there marlakay Apr 2017 #32
I live in Tar Heel Town (Chapel Hill), so no, didn't have to look them up. mnhtnbb Apr 2017 #36
I admit, I did too. shenmue Apr 2017 #37
They have made noises in the Tournament for about 15 years now rufus dog Apr 2017 #38
For a long time, I thought they were in Utah Hawaii Hiker Apr 2017 #41
maybe Utah Thew Apr 2017 #79
Not many would know, seeing as how in-the-tank the CBS team was for UNC. HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #42
For many years in the late 60's and into at least the mid-70s there was PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #43
That's the high school, at H Street and North Capitol Street, NW, in DC. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2017 #53
Oh, my! And to think that for some 45 years I thought PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #62
I remember the graffito well. I saw it many times. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2017 #63
How cool! I essentially know nothing PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #73
Speaking of an impossibly tiny space for a football/lacrosse field: mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2017 #80
St. John's dethrones Gonzaga to capture schools first WCAC boys lacrosse title mahatmakanejeeves May 2017 #81
Hey, thanks for that update! PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #82
I saw that in my Google News this morning, and I couldn't resist. mahatmakanejeeves May 2017 #83
I read Bing Crosby's autobiography years ago Maeve Apr 2017 #44
It's usually right there, near the Monterey Jack and Cheddar jberryhill Apr 2017 #46
I assume this is not about Mantuan princesses and Holy Roman empresses? JHB Apr 2017 #49
Anybody who has followed CBB for the past 15 years didn't need to look up Gonzaga scheming daemons Apr 2017 #51
Ah, well that wouldn't be me. MineralMan Apr 2017 #55
It's not Gonzaga BeyondGeography Apr 2017 #52
What a cheesy comment! MineralMan Apr 2017 #56
Am I really the first one to say they looked up where the odd name came from? bellmartin Apr 2017 #57
I learned that at the wikipedia article. MineralMan Apr 2017 #58
Sounds like a Democratic saint to me! bellmartin Apr 2017 #59
One of my friends went there. A mutual friend of ours went to UNC. YoungDemCA Apr 2017 #60
Not me. I come from Spokane. Know it well. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2017 #64
Not me Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #65
Gonzaga Hula Popper Apr 2017 #68
My wife's cousin is an assistant coach there. opiate69 Apr 2017 #69
That's an STD isn't it? HAB911 Apr 2017 #70
No. Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #72
They've been a top 10 basketball program for like 20 years TransitJohn Apr 2017 #75
Yeah, I couldn't figure out what the hell they were talking about, either. Warpy Apr 2017 #76
I went to Wash State Univ rpannier Apr 2017 #77
Many of these colleges Jamaal510 Apr 2017 #78

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
6. That name is pronounced in several different ways by news people.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:01 AM
Apr 2017

I'm sure it's annoying to people who are alumni and current students. But, then, I live in Minnesota, which has many places that are not pronounced as you'd expect. My favorite place here is Wayzata. People here pronounced it as WyZEHta. It's a stumbling word for many new TV news folks who have moved here from other places.

Another one is Gervais Lake. Although it is named after a French explorer, the locals pronounce it as Jarvis. Took me a while to get that one right.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. Too many pronounce 'caramel' with 2 syllables. That's always bugged me.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:08 AM
Apr 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
48. So you ignore the second 'a'? Or is it a silent vowel?
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 12:20 PM
Apr 2017
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/caramel?s=t

Roget's Dictionary shows the preferred pronunciation first:

caramel
{kar-uh-muh l, -mel, kahr-muh l}

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

MontanaMama

(23,319 posts)
9. We're 250 miles east
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:08 AM
Apr 2017

Of Gonzaga. We're always excited when a school from the NW is in the hunt. They're a small school...it's impressive that they made it to the finals.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
7. I had always assumed it was somewhere on the East Coast.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:06 AM
Apr 2017

Never knew it was in Washington State until this year.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
13. No. I'm a Washingtonian. We know where it is.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:27 AM
Apr 2017

It sounds like the kind of place that should be located in California's Inland Empire, instead of Washington's IE.

Cirque du So-What

(25,941 posts)
15. Speaking of which...
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:38 AM
Apr 2017

I once had to google 'Inland Empire,' despite living in California for a year and making frequent visits for years afterward (although I never went to San Bernardino).

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
16. We have our own inland empire here.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:41 AM
Apr 2017

Washingtonian is perceived as that goofy, rainy, liberal state with Seattle and mountains.

But get east of the mountains, and you'll run into an Idaho state of mind long before you get to the Idaho border. No snow-covered mountains or lush forests. No open, friendly, liberal cities. Just scrub-desert and pursy-lipped right-wingers as far as the eye can see.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
21. And potatoes.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:28 AM
Apr 2017

We actually grow more potatoes than Idaho. But I guess Idaho wanted to be known for something other than white supremacists...

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
25. And an increasingly kick-ass wine industry.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:35 AM
Apr 2017

As California heats up the NAPA growers are buying up property there like mad, so it's only going to get better. I have a son in the industry and he's delighted. But he's not planning on living in the IE.

RealityChik

(382 posts)
74. Roman Catholic, yes, but...
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 01:59 AM
Apr 2017

The Jesuits are like the progressive radical left-wing of the Catholic Church! Jesuits rock! Always on the cutting edge, pushing the envelope (often to the consternation of the pope!) Now the Catholic Church has a Jesuit pope! It's no surprise to me that it would take a Jesuit to drag the Church, albeit kicking and screaming, out of the Dark Ages and into the 21st Century.

I went there in the late 1960's before transferring out after 2 years to a bigger university with a more varied Fine Arts program. I had a blast, even while getting some serious core subject studying done as well. Of note, Gonzaga was already building a first-class basketball program even back then. Known for basketball, Engineering and Law. Fine art? Not so much. Leaving was painful, but necessary.

GentryDixon

(2,952 posts)
17. John Stockton of the Utah Jazz was a graduate. They have quite a bit of memorabilia of his,
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:22 AM
Apr 2017

or did when I visited there many years ago.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
18. Spokane the gateway to Trump country
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:22 AM
Apr 2017

Gonzaga is a small, private school in Spokane. Solid reputation academically. I have no idea how they became a powerhouse college team.

Washington is a blue state because the western half is where Seattle and the majority of the population is.

Spokane is on the east side on the Idaho border, 85% white, 17% poverty level, significant unemployment, and big into the NRA, guns, and deer hunting. Culturally very different. Seattle is known as "libtards" country. Its also where the fucking jobs are.

A little secret about the white working class. They'll complain until they get their 1980 factory or coal mining job back. Until then, they'll scapegoat, hate the government because their job left, while NOT going to school, and remain sitting on their fat asses shooting at gun ranges, drinking beer, shooting up meth, and complaining. That's my observation.

They expect the government to give them their old job back. Its 2017. How about learning computer skills besides video games?

Spokane is northwestern gateway to Trump country and it gets worse as you move eastward.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
23. You've got that right.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:31 AM
Apr 2017

The Trumpanzees make me want to roll my eyes.

"Ah hates the gubmint! Cain't wait fer m'SSI check ta git here, so's Ah kin go down ta Hank's 'n' git drunk!"

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
39. ...beginnin's of Bundy country as you travel eastwards...
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:56 AM
Apr 2017

...but other than that Wash state is home of Boeing, Microsoft, Macklamore, Jimmy Hindrix, Soundgaarden, Nirvana, Nintendo, Nordstroms, Costco, Bill and Melinda Gates.....Seahawks, Mariners and Zags!..oh! and Cougar Gold Cheese!!!! (Go Cougs!)

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
71. And every bit of that is west of the Cascades
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 03:19 PM
Apr 2017

There are three Washingtons.

Western Washington - the Cascade Mountain Range to the coast - is where all the money, rain, fun stuff, jobs and liberals are.

Central Washington is tree fruit, row crops, potatoes and a degree of conservatism so severe Republicans run against Republicans in the general election. Its eastern edge is hard to pick out, but let's put it at 30 miles west of Spokane.

From there to the Idaho line is Eastern Washington. It's conservative - they inflicted Cathy McMorris Rogers on the rest of the country - but it's not nearly as bad as Grant County. It is the retail center for the American Redoubt.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
20. They have been in NCAA tournaments for
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:23 AM
Apr 2017

many years, so I looked them up long ago when I was actually in an office pool. My son even considered going there at one point.

John1956PA

(2,654 posts)
35. Ditto
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:51 AM
Apr 2017

I just had to look up Gonzaga after I first noticed the team appearance in the NCAA tournament about eight years ago. What a nice-sounding name I thought.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
61. Yes, they were the Cinderella team in an NCAA tourney in the 80s, I believe.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 01:32 PM
Apr 2017

I don't remember how far they got, but they got a LOT of air play at the time.

tblue37

(65,393 posts)
22. I did. But I don't follow sports. I looked it up only because I saw they would
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:29 AM
Apr 2017

be in the Finals but I had never even heard of them.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
26. My sister went to Pepperdine so we knew about them
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:37 AM
Apr 2017

They are in the same conference so they play each other regularly. Almost all of the schools in the WCC, their conference, are religiously affiliated schools.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
45. You know, I never really realized that the entire conference was private/religious
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 12:06 PM
Apr 2017

LMU
Saint Mary's
Pepperdine
Santa Clara
BYU
Pacific
Portland
San Diego
San Francisco

All religious schools, mostly catholic.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
50. Yes they are. Most are very good schools too.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 12:25 PM
Apr 2017

Pepperdine is Church of Christ. My sister had to go to convocation regularly. We went to Catholic school from elementary through high school so it wasn't a huge deal, but they definitely try to sell it.

Santa Clara has a good law program. I have several friends who went to LMU. I was planning to attend but with my sister at PU, we did not have the money to send me to private. I ended up at UCLA. My cousin got her Masters from USD and a close friend got her undergrad at San Francisco.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
54. UCLA is a great school too
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 12:38 PM
Apr 2017

All those on the list are great schools. Apologies to Stockton, but Pacific wouldn't have been high on my list. I have been through most of the schools on the list, all great locations. (Sorry again to Pacific, never had a reason to go through Stockton)

The list got me thinking, why is University of Seattle not on the list? Turns out they were original members but left for "greener" pastures.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
28. i live in Wash State so ....
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:37 AM
Apr 2017

...knew exactly where they were. A private college...small and relatively young. that's why this is a big deal for them.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
30. I knew what and where it is but only because
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:39 AM
Apr 2017

the earliest known bootleg recording of Led Zeppelin (in the US) was done there in 1968. They opened for Vanilla Fudge at the Gonzaga gym. It was their fifth show in the US.


It is because of the Led Zep connection that I always picked them to go far in the NCAA tournament but they always burned me by losing way earlier than I had them going in my brackets. This year I dropped them out earlier than they went so I lost a lot of points. However I had NC picked as the winner so I won 2 of the 4 brackets I was in.

marlakay

(11,470 posts)
32. Sister n law works there
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:42 AM
Apr 2017

Went to a wedding in church there, its a catholic college i think.

She is still happy they made it as far as they did.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
36. I live in Tar Heel Town (Chapel Hill), so no, didn't have to look them up.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:51 AM
Apr 2017

Gonzaga would never have been able to fill the streets the way Tar Heels did last night on Franklin Street to celebrate the win!


Some great photos/video here: http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/04/franklin-street-unc-fans

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
38. They have made noises in the Tournament for about 15 years now
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:56 AM
Apr 2017

Never this far, that is for sure. Anyway, out here on the West Coast they are fairly well known.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,166 posts)
41. For a long time, I thought they were in Utah
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:58 AM
Apr 2017

Don't know why i thought that, just one of those guesstimates of where i thought they were...

Then one day was talking sports w/my dentist and he said they were in Washington State...

Thew

(162 posts)
79. maybe Utah
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 03:59 AM
Apr 2017

because their most famous athlete alum is John Stockton of Utah Jazz fame - if you followed the NBA any last decade.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
42. Not many would know, seeing as how in-the-tank the CBS team was for UNC.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:59 AM
Apr 2017

And North Carolina won . . . . again . . . . so there is that.

Since the early 1990s, the same four teams (North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, UConn), with the occasional exception of a Villanova, Maryland, Kansas or Syracuse tossed in, win the championship almost every year like clockwork.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
43. For many years in the late 60's and into at least the mid-70s there was
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 12:02 PM
Apr 2017

grafitti on some railroad bridge next to the 14th Street Bridge (the Rochambeau Bridge) into the District of Columbia from Arlington Virginia, and could be seen going into the District that read: Gonazaga beat -- and I no longer recall what school Gonzaga beat that inspired the grafitti.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
62. Oh, my! And to think that for some 45 years I thought
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 02:12 PM
Apr 2017

the reference was to the University! Not sure if I'm happy to learn the truth, or a bit sorry to have my little bubble of ignorance burst.

But how cool is it that so quickly some knew exactly what I was talking about and could name the other school.

I actually do appreciate the correction.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,472 posts)
63. I remember the graffito well. I saw it many times.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 02:28 PM
Apr 2017

Back then, it would have referred to a football rivalry. Today, Gonzaga is as likely to have rivalries in lacrosse and ice hockey, with, say, Georgetown Prep. They sponsor a big hockey tournament between semesters, the Purple Puck Tournament, at the Fort Dupont Ice Arena.*

Gonzaga has managed to cram a football/lacrosse field into an impossibly tiny space between the classroom building and the Government Printing Office on the north and south, and a parking lot and North Capitol Street on the west and east. There's also a Walmart and a Subway on that block.

Gonzaga College High School

* And now I know that the Latin phrase for hockey is "Ludus Glacialis." Not to nitpick, but wouldn't that apply just as well to any winter sport?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
73. How cool! I essentially know nothing
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 04:45 PM
Apr 2017

about those two schools, despite the years I lived in that area. I moved there as a young adult, moved away some 13 years later, so I didn't attend high school, nor did I have children in high school there.

I really do appreciate this stuff.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,472 posts)
81. St. John's dethrones Gonzaga to capture schools first WCAC boys lacrosse title
Tue May 9, 2017, 10:35 AM
May 2017
St. John’s dethrones Gonzaga to capture school’s first WCAC boys’ lacrosse title

By Eric Goldwein May 8 at 10:13 PM

As the other St. John’s players rushed toward the sideline, senior goalie John Kiracofe hung back by the center circle of the University of Maryland’s Ludwig Field. With eye black smeared across his face, he exchanged a lengthy hug with sophomore Alan Long and the two soaked in the historic victory.

With Monday’s 7-5 victory over Gonzaga, the Cadets captured their first Washington Catholic Athletic Conference championship since the school launched boys’ lacrosse in the late 1970s, according to school officials.

It was an upset on paper, but St. John’s (11-5) went into the season and the title game believing it could beat the seven-time defending WCAC champs.
....

No. 4 Gonzaga (14-7) won, 11-7, when the teams met April 28, and the Cadets used that game as motivation heading into the final in front of the packed stadium at College Park.
....

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,472 posts)
83. I saw that in my Google News this morning, and I couldn't resist.
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:41 AM
May 2017

Those are the two schools in the graffito "Go Gonzaga Beat St. John's."

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
55. Ah, well that wouldn't be me.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 12:38 PM
Apr 2017

I'm not a basketball fan. The last time I actually attended a basketball game was at my high school in 1963. I had to, because I was in the pep band.

bellmartin

(218 posts)
57. Am I really the first one to say they looked up where the odd name came from?
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 12:54 PM
Apr 2017

It's named for St. Aloysius Gonzaga, a 16th-century Italian Jesuit, who died young as a result of caring for the victims of an epidemic.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
60. One of my friends went there. A mutual friend of ours went to UNC.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 12:58 PM
Apr 2017

Draw your own conclusions from that.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
75. They've been a top 10 basketball program for like 20 years
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 02:07 AM
Apr 2017

Did you just hear of them? Jesuit school in Spokane.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
78. Many of these colleges
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 03:27 AM
Apr 2017

I find myself having to look up their location, such as Gonzaga, Duke, and Vanderbilt. I never had a strong interest in college sports, but thought it was interesting that there are schools that aren't named after cities or states.

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