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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMcConnell: Gorsuch Is Going To Be Confirmed One Way Or The Other
"Judge Gorsuch is going to be confirmed," McConnell said on "Fox News Sunday." "The way in which that occurs is in the hands of the Democratic minority."
McConnell did not say directly that he would trigger the nuclear option, in which the chamber's rules would be changed to allow the Senate to cut off filibusters on Supreme Court nominations with a simple majority, instead of the current 60-vote threshold. But he said the week "will end with [Gorsuch's] confirmation" whether or not Democrats attempt to filibuster him.
Democrats say that if the filibuster remains in place, they have the votes to torpedo Gorsuchs nomination.
Its highly, highly unlikely that hell get to 60, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said on NBCs Meet the Press.
www.politico.com/story/2017/04/mcconnell-gorsuch-supreme-court-236787
Fuck. You. Mitch. You belong in prison as much as Trump you treasonous rat bastard.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)I would love to see him in prison.
Initech
(100,076 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,593 posts)1,000,000,000,000,000,etc. %
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)former9thward
(32,009 posts)That would be the section of China that supports the U.S.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)former9thward
(32,009 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Destroy the Filibuster. You already destroyed America.
delisen
(6,043 posts)so the health of Kentuckians can improve and our country can move forward.
McConnell has been senator from Kentucky for 36 years. He has failed to uplift his state. He is the leader of the Senate, and Kentucky is leading in in poverty-one of the 10 most impoverished states.
Democrats who want us to reach out to white Trump voters need to start being more aggressive about the message. Poor states are mainly poor because they vote for McConnell's and Rands.
Incidentally McConnell's first wife is the feminist scholar, Sherrill Redmon. If only she had had the political career.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)but, I would much rather the Democrats go out fighting than just meekly rolling over again and again
Beartracks
(12,814 posts)... it will be nice to not have the Party of No to worry about, dragging things down like an anchor with the filibuster.
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Alice11111
(5,730 posts)For something big, go down fighting . Give the rat fuckers a taste of their own bile.
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)CousinIT
(9,245 posts). . . and every psychopathic ruling the putrid rat makes - FOREVER.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Keep trying to blame it on us, on Obama, on Reid.
Man up, blamer guys...most of them are in the GOP Senate...if you change the rules, YOU are the ones who fucked it up, not us.
Dems need to get out there and make that clear. Repubs were on every channel on Sunday blaming Dems, if the rules are changed.
Beartracks
(12,814 posts)Xolodno
(6,395 posts)10 bucks he cries like a baby and will want to return to the "days of civility", plus begs for forgiveness of him being an asshole.
I'm all for that...but after Dems invoke the 40 year rule of wandering the desert to weed out these partisan hacks, then return to the filibuster.
Initech
(100,076 posts)Along with the rest of the House and Senate that the Koch Bros bought and paid for.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)...which gets back to why we should oppose Gorcuch. He didn't make much clear, but he did make it clear, he's for Citizens United.
red dog 1
(27,804 posts)stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)hurple
(1,306 posts)You know there has to be one somewhere. Donnie wouldn't have nominated him without his russian handler telling him to.
CurtEastPoint
(18,644 posts)NewRedDawn
(790 posts)Russo- Fascist Vermin.
longship
(40,416 posts)Turtle McTurtleface's nuclear option is deader than a Tyson chicken. With sage dressing on the side!!!
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)When it swings back to us again (and looking more and more like that will be sooner than later), they are the ones who obstruct everything with the filibuster. Hell they were the first ones to escalate the use of it back in the 70's, and every time the next Democratic Party wave came in and just tried to keep the status, the next wave of Republican minority would come in and double the use of it. Hell, just look at this chart, and it doesn't even capture the biggest years of 2013-2016!
Looks to me like they have a hell of a lot more to lose by doing away with it than we do.
Maybe next round we'll be able to just go ahead.. dump the rumpcare, and put in single payer right out of the starting gate without having to kiss the asses of DINO's, and the Lieberman's out there to do so.
mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)republicans plan on staying in power forever? They will need judges to do it.
We must filibuster, no question. If he nukes it, so be it, but it's chilling what they're thinking and maybe even planning.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)they need to tell you to shove it up your ass because if you do it then when control swings back we "will" remember it and you and your party are in for a rude awakening.
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)FILIBUSTER!
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)off of a short pier. Take your nuclear option and shove it where the sun don't shine.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)when we take it as it was meant to be, stealing our democracy, then and only then will we get serious.
McConnell was deemed "too racist" to serve in the REAGAN administration
the REAGAN administration.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)Pain and suffering is all that Mitch and his Republic0n hoodlums know. He wanted to make Obama a one term president, and he/they didn't care how much pain that they inflicked on the country or American citizens to make it happen.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,016 posts)I.e., to "end debate" (filibuster). That's why Schumer has indicated that he had 41 votes to their (potential) 59 meaning they wouldn't be able to invoke cloture.
Thus the idea of Turtle invoking the nuclear option and calling a vote to change the rule to then install Gorsuch with 51 votes (assuming they have that).
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Sorry for my lack of clarity.
BumRushDaShow
(129,016 posts)The Majority Leader can proclaim that (which the OP indicated). This was as a result of the last rules change in 2013.
(Also noted in my LBN OP - http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141745992)
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,016 posts)that says this (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141745992) -
At that point, McConnell will turn to the nuclear option by essentially declaring from the Senate floor that from now on filibusters of Supreme Court nominees can be stopped with 51 votes not 60, as has been the case for decades.
McConnell's declaration would then be enforced by a roll call vote when 51 votes are needed to create the new Senate precedent. Vice President Mike Pence will be standing by to break a tie if not all 52 Republicans back the nuclear option, which is possible.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/04/politics/neil-gorsuch-senate-mcconnell/index.html
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Collins, Murkowski and ? It certainly won't be Graham or McCain. It probably won't be Paul, either. Flake? Heller? The rest of the Repubs are unprincipled and spineless so they will likely do exactly as Turtle commands.
BumRushDaShow
(129,016 posts)Someone posted in my LBN thread that Graham would probably go along with the nuclear option so I floated Hatch (only because he has been in there so long despite having become a born-again teabagger when Lee ousted Bennett in his state).
McCain might vote against the rules change though. Flake seems to be more fiscal-focused and is still junior in the Senate so I don't think he'll buck Turtle. Paul is a lot of talk and little action and probably won't buck Turtle either (who is his KY colleague too).
tritsofme
(17,378 posts)On Thursday, they will not formally change the rules, they will instead set a precedent that where the rule says 60 votes, it actually means 51.
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)If McConnell goes nuclear, they stop pretending this is a democracy. The dictatorship officially begins.