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Different Drummer

(7,617 posts)
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:29 PM Apr 2017

Christian Activist: God Will Curse the Children and Grandchildren of Those Who Opposed Trump

Source: DeadState,org


In an appearance on the Jim Bakker Show, “conservative activists” Don and Mary Colbert relayed a dire warning for anyone who opposed Donald Trump in the years and months before the 2016 election.

According to Mary Colbert, people who opposed Trump are destined to be cursed by God — and that includes their children and grandchildren.

“It’s not that Donald Trump is all that perfect of a guy,” Colbert said. “We all know he’s not. And we know that he’s not necessarily perfect in every way that we would like. That’s not how God works. He works through the ones he chooses. We don’t choose them.”

“All we have to do is recognize them and when you recognize a chosen one and you have the discernment to know that they’ve been chosen and know that that’s the will of God, then your life will be blessed. And if you come against the chosen one of God, you are bringing upon you and your children and your children’s children curses like you have never seen. It puts a holy fear in me.”



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Christian Activist: God Will Curse the Children and Grandchildren of Those Who Opposed Trump (Original Post) Different Drummer Apr 2017 OP
Religious fools ready to march over the cliff on command! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #1
Good paleotn Apr 2017 #10
lemming misconceptions 0rganism Apr 2017 #19
Thanks, I revised it! RKP5637 Apr 2017 #24
If only they would! Warpy Apr 2017 #43
The letters "a"and "u" are too... 3catwoman3 Apr 2017 #60
It was a Fraudulent Slip Warpy Apr 2017 #62
So man created God in his own image... tanyev Apr 2017 #2
I hate these people NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #3
Don't hate them, because they are just stupid. vlyons Apr 2017 #20
I don't think they are stupid. Crunchy Frog Apr 2017 #27
I don't equate stupidity with low IQ vlyons Apr 2017 #33
No excuses NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #83
I agree. We all choose constantly vlyons Apr 2017 #86
They are nasty evil people and, as you say, extremely dangerous. I thought these damn fools RKP5637 Apr 2017 #28
God's real name is Putin dalton99a Apr 2017 #4
Why are you posting this crap here? malaise Apr 2017 #5
Dear Mary Colbert, guillaumeb Apr 2017 #6
What a crock of bs. Stellar Apr 2017 #7
I would argue that everyone is cursed Renew Deal Apr 2017 #8
Yes. Especially since January 20, 2017. Boomerproud Apr 2017 #15
I felt it 9NOVEMBER GWC58 Apr 2017 #42
Bakker is around to still make money any way he can if it is trump that's fine lunasun Apr 2017 #55
God Guide GreatCaesarsGhost Apr 2017 #9
What about those of use who don't have kids? BigDemVoter Apr 2017 #11
I hope she slips on a Ilsa Apr 2017 #12
In any sane nation these people would be institutionalized GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #13
Christian Activist:------v stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #14
It's a relief to see your image after witnessing the malicious stupidity of that Fundie panel! n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #67
Thay are the definition of disgusting. kairos12 Apr 2017 #16
She doesn't believe this shit... It's all part of their business model.... Raster Apr 2017 #17
But if we buy some of that Christian miracle spring water vlyons Apr 2017 #23
Yep, there's big $$$$$$'s in this religious bullsh**! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #30
Here's where I am grateful for a parochial school education. Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2017 #18
Someone needs to tell her that she chose Skidmore Apr 2017 #21
The Christian right sold their souls to Satan a long time ago. Initech Apr 2017 #29
And its so damned obvious now with their pussy grabbing fascist cult leader in charge workinclasszero Apr 2017 #72
And I reply to them, simply: "Go to hell". Initech Apr 2017 #22
Sorry, but your God is a fool. MineralMan Apr 2017 #25
When are these shitbags gonna get raptured? roamer65 Apr 2017 #26
Maybe they can find another Jim Jones! RKP5637 Apr 2017 #32
. roamer65 Apr 2017 #52
if i believed in god i would think DesertFlower Apr 2017 #31
This. n/t Different Drummer Apr 2017 #34
Someone get a net. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #35
You're one sick and hateful fool woman. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #36
seems legit Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #37
thank god I'm atheist.... samnsara Apr 2017 #38
Pseudo-Christian activist. nt LAS14 Apr 2017 #39
Cosmic Narcissism: A New Psychological Disorder Donkees Apr 2017 #40
He looks more like he is... 3catwoman3 Apr 2017 #54
Thanks for the cilla4progress Apr 2017 #77
Sheesh! ananda Apr 2017 #41
Republicanism is Mental Illness + Religion is Mental Illness results in batshit crazy. n/t Binkie The Clown Apr 2017 #44
Okay, so God gave her "discernment".. Permanut Apr 2017 #45
televangelists....the worse grifters in the world... 'then your life will be blessed' spanone Apr 2017 #46
They are totally and completely WRONG. Everything in the bible says the complete opposite. If caroldansen Apr 2017 #47
I wonder how much she worshiped Obama when he was "The Chosen One" Mr. Ected Apr 2017 #48
Hey that was the devil's work Doncha know? lunasun Apr 2017 #56
More hate from the cesspool that is the Heartland. Dawson Leery Apr 2017 #49
gawd works in mysterious ways his/her practical jokes to perform rurallib Apr 2017 #50
The Buy-bull is make believe. stopbush Apr 2017 #51
Religion delusion and deserves involuntary commitment in the nearest mental facility. nt MANative Apr 2017 #53
if there were a God (which there isn't) RussBLib Apr 2017 #57
a special place in hell Demonaut Apr 2017 #58
Wait, God curses unborn children? Worktodo Apr 2017 #59
And I say 45 supporters will burn in hell. sinkingfeeling Apr 2017 #61
Hate to break it to you, lady, but God already cursed us by giving us Trump. Initech Apr 2017 #63
You said it! Generic Other Apr 2017 #65
And now we know what a petty little vindictive idol Mary Colbert worships struggle4progress Apr 2017 #64
That's the kind of unhinged you don't allow children or animals around. Solly Mack Apr 2017 #66
A seminal Christian doctrine is that people have free will IndianaDave Apr 2017 #68
Are you kidding me? oasis Apr 2017 #69
Jim Bakker once had the best comedy show on television. Elwood P Dowd Apr 2017 #70
The PTL show - Pass The Loot flygal Apr 2017 #71
I guess those gassed Syrians were against Trump lame54 Apr 2017 #73
Oh teh noes! I am accursed by someone's imaginary friend! Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #74
HAH, Fundamentalcases on Dead-End Times Prepper Jim Bakker's show. THAT'S a stretch. HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #75
Fundamentalcases! ROFLMBO!! meow2u3 Apr 2017 #81
This is all they've got cilla4progress Apr 2017 #76
In other words they're using the fear of god to keep their Evangelical followers inline TNLib Apr 2017 #78
Who chose Obama? Bill Clinton? Keith Ellison? ck4829 Apr 2017 #79
Now...I'm askeeeeered HAB911 Apr 2017 #80
Jesus said "Render unto Caesar..." ExciteBike66 Apr 2017 #82
Maybe she could convince us by citing the pussy grabber chapters in the Bible. Vinca Apr 2017 #84
When the oceans rise and the crops wither and die from climate change NickB79 Apr 2017 #85
Same god who speaks through donkeys Major Nikon Apr 2017 #87
aaah....NO Tikki Apr 2017 #88

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
19. lemming misconceptions
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:45 PM
Apr 2017

pls don't ascribe the worst aspects of human behavior to our rodential relatives


Lemmings have become the subject of a widely popular misconception that they commit mass suicide when they migrate by jumping off cliffs. It is in fact not a mass suicide but the result of their migratory behavior. Driven by strong biological urges, some species of lemmings may migrate in large groups when population density becomes too great. They can swim and may choose to cross a body of water in search of a new habitat. In such cases, many may drown if the body of water is so wide as to stretch their physical capabilities to the limit. This fact and the unexplained fluctuations in the population of Norwegian lemmings gave rise to the misconception.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemming

the rest of the animal kingdom seems to do okay, really. they're the results of natural, successful genetic experiments stretching back millions of years. meanwhile, it looks like 10000 years of human civilization could well be enough to end the entire biosphere as we know it.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
43. If only they would!
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:20 PM
Apr 2017

Personally, I think our best bet is the Rupture. Either we'll go and leave them sitting in a polluted mess wondering what to do or they'll go and we'll be rid of them and can start cleaning up the mess they made.

3catwoman3

(24,005 posts)
60. The letters "a"and "u" are too...
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 09:39 PM
Apr 2017

...far apart on the keyboard for Rupture to be a typo - love your creativity.

CAn all those deluded folks be Ruptured soon, please? I will be happy to be left behind.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
3. I hate these people
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:31 PM
Apr 2017

Christians who claim they know it all. Even if I believed in their god, I still wouldn't believe that they know the mind of him/her/it.

They're damned dangerous. They hate democracy; they want a king "chosen by god."

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
20. Don't hate them, because they are just stupid.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:46 PM
Apr 2017

Probably grew up in a fundamentalist family and were taught this crap. Or even had it beat into them. Maybe home schooled as kids or went to a Fundie Christian school that taught them fear and loathing, rather than love and tolerance. Don't think that I'm excusing them, because I'm not. It's so easy for them to escape responsibility for their judgemental attitudes, by claiming God's will did it to them. They don't know any better. They are simply just stupid people. We don't need to hate them, because they are filled with more than enough self-hatred for their own imperfections.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
27. I don't think they are stupid.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:54 PM
Apr 2017

I think that they're cynically manipulating people who are stupid, and they know exactly what they're doing.

That makes them evil, not stupid.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
33. I don't equate stupidity with low IQ
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:01 PM
Apr 2017

I mean stupidity in the Buddhist understanding of lack of discerning wisdom. Lack of compassion, lack of how hateful speech can hurt and confuse people, lack of understanding how such talk creates suffering for themselves and others. In that sense, they are very stupid. And to the degree that they knowingly prey on gullible people, yes evil.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
83. No excuses
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 03:40 PM
Apr 2017

I know people, including myself, who were raised with fear. I had nightmares as a child because I knew I'd go to Hell and burn "for eternity." That wasn't fundie, it was from Catholic schools, but here's the deal: I grew up. I started questioning, and realized that it was all a load of crap.

I know a lot of ex-fundies, who also grew up. They're either atheists now, or following a (mostly) kinder, gentler religion. So no, I'm not going to excuse these people. They choose to remain ignorant.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
86. I agree. We all choose constantly
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 05:01 PM
Apr 2017

One aspect of stupidity is failing to recognize that there are always other choices that we can make.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
28. They are nasty evil people and, as you say, extremely dangerous. I thought these damn fools
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:54 PM
Apr 2017

got left behind in the middle ages, but they're still here. I wish we could build a wall around them.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
42. I felt it 9NOVEMBER
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:15 PM
Apr 2017

2016! I have no use for these religious zealots. And Jim "Fucking" Bakker? Why is his slimy, scamming ass still around. Hey there, Jim!?! Have you heard from Jessica Hahn lately? Fucking hypocrite!!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. In any sane nation these people would be institutionalized
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:36 PM
Apr 2017

This is not religion this is batshit crazy.

Trump the chosen one their god cursing his opponents down through the generations?

Raster

(20,998 posts)
17. She doesn't believe this shit... It's all part of their business model....
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:42 PM
Apr 2017

...their Christian business model, you know, religion.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
23. But if we buy some of that Christian miracle spring water
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:50 PM
Apr 2017

that they sell on late night TV, it will remove the curse, we'll get a big surprise check in the mail, and be cured of all our ailments.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,577 posts)
18. Here's where I am grateful for a parochial school education.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:43 PM
Apr 2017

Because we had to take religion class, 5 days a week, some of what is written in the New Testament sticks with me. In this situation I believe the parable Jesus told ended with the punch line- 'render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, render unto God what is God's'- translation- politics and religion (or theology) don't mix...............

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
72. And its so damned obvious now with their pussy grabbing fascist cult leader in charge
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:33 AM
Apr 2017

Not to mention his number one adviser in the white house, Bannon who is on record as an admirer of Satan.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
26. When are these shitbags gonna get raptured?
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:54 PM
Apr 2017

Get them the fuck off this planet!

Somehow I have a feeling Jesus doesn't want them, so we are stuck with them.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
31. if i believed in god i would think
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 07:58 PM
Apr 2017

he would punish those who voted for trump, because like trump, they are racists.

Donkees

(31,413 posts)
40. Cosmic Narcissism: A New Psychological Disorder
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:14 PM
Apr 2017

[font color="gray"]Pat Robertson after receiving his diagnosis of Cosmic Narcissistic Personality Disorder[/font]

Excerpt:

Perhaps the most commonly witnessed trait of the cosmic narcissist is the belief that he or she is "special" and can only be understood by, or should associate with, people (or institutions) who are also "special" or of high status (criteria 3). As mentioned earlier, people with strong religious convictions believe that they are supremely special, and this belief is fostered by the notion that a supreme being favors their group over all others. Individuals belonging to other groups then-- particularly to such groups that have substantially divergent religious beliefs-- are subsequently viewed as inferior. This sense of superiority harbored by cosmic narcissists often leads them to require excessive admiration (criteria 4) from others, particularly from those in different religious groups. When such admiration from the ‘inferior’ other(s) is not received, the cosmic narcissist’s extreme sense of entitlement (criteria 5) is left ungratified. When other groups (again, particularly rival religious groups) fail to demonstrate sufficient admiration for the cosmic narcissist’s special status, and thus neglect his right to special entitlements, an urge to retaliate often results. The potential for catastrophe that can ensue when the cosmic narcissist’s needs are not met is perhaps summed up best by the late George Carlin, in his “My god has a bigger dick than your god” scenario.

http://inebriateddiscourse.blogspot.com/2009/06/cosmic-narcissism-new-psychological.html

Permanut

(5,610 posts)
45. Okay, so God gave her "discernment"..
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:21 PM
Apr 2017

Let's see if I figured out how this works. God gave Mary Colbert "discernment" but didn't give it to anyone who opposed the Gropenfuhrer. And she knows she has it because God chose her to have it. So, naturally, using this God-given discernment, she can discern that God has chosen Cheetolini to lead his people, so it sounds like he has some o' that discernment stuff too.

Or, in summary, God gave her the discernment to discern that God gave it to her. Pay attention, there will be a quiz next Monday.

spanone

(135,843 posts)
46. televangelists....the worse grifters in the world... 'then your life will be blessed'
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:23 PM
Apr 2017

what a pantload

this couple is a million miles from anything resembling Christianity

caroldansen

(725 posts)
47. They are totally and completely WRONG. Everything in the bible says the complete opposite. If
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:26 PM
Apr 2017

anything it would happen to those that supported trump!

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
49. More hate from the cesspool that is the Heartland.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:30 PM
Apr 2017


Nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about blindly following political leaders.

The Evangelical is but a menace to the free world, as are the Jihadis, and the Nazis and Confederates in prior times.

Worktodo

(288 posts)
59. Wait, God curses unborn children?
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 09:22 PM
Apr 2017

I thought Jesus did away with all that, but I guess this lady stopped reading the Bible halfway through.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
63. Hate to break it to you, lady, but God already cursed us by giving us Trump.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:15 PM
Apr 2017

Anything our children and grandchildren suffer through will be a direct result of what the scumbag republicans do the next couple of years.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
65. You said it!
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:09 AM
Apr 2017


We are living under the curse as we speak. We need a fairy godmother to break the spell.

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
66. That's the kind of unhinged you don't allow children or animals around.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:27 AM
Apr 2017

Can't trust them around either.

It's also the kind of unhinged I avoid when at all possible.

They have a sickness that harms everything it touches.

I am an atheist but I can say with a certainty that these people have long thought themselves the true god of religion.

These people are something truly sick.



IndianaDave

(612 posts)
68. A seminal Christian doctrine is that people have free will
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 01:09 AM
Apr 2017

God didn't choose Trump. And neither did the majority of Americans. He occupies this office because of a technicality known as the Electoral College. God had nothing to do with this, and - on the contrary - I'm convinced that we will be judged on our efforts (or lack thereof) to resist the people and policies that hurt the weakest and most vulnerable people in our society; the people and policies that move us toward conflict and violence. The ramblings of an ignorant and judgmental person have nothing to do with reality. This woman has no authority to speak for Christianity. This is ridiculous.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
70. Jim Bakker once had the best comedy show on television.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 01:18 AM
Apr 2017

I used to laugh my ass off watching he and his wife fleece their flock every week.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
74. Oh teh noes! I am accursed by someone's imaginary friend!
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:41 AM
Apr 2017

Whatever shall I do? Luckily I have bred no insufferable spawn to inherit my curse.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
75. HAH, Fundamentalcases on Dead-End Times Prepper Jim Bakker's show. THAT'S a stretch.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:49 AM
Apr 2017

"As far as the negative and judgmental stuff goes, realize that Jesus has a crappy fan club. Just don't give up." - Jay Bakker, far less of a loon than his daddy.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
76. This is all they've got
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:56 AM
Apr 2017

A make believe authoritarian in a made up world only they can make up rules for.

We are doomed.

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
78. In other words they're using the fear of god to keep their Evangelical followers inline
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 09:02 AM
Apr 2017

As Trump's support slumps you'll see more of this kind of crap from the televangelist.

It's sad because most churches aren't preaching this nonsense.

NickB79

(19,247 posts)
85. When the oceans rise and the crops wither and die from climate change
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 03:50 PM
Apr 2017

We are ALL going to be punished.

The only difference is, those who opposed Trump were the ones working to STOP the apocalypse. Those who voted for the fucker hastened it's arrival.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
88. aaah....NO
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 05:28 PM
Apr 2017

The only thing that works through trump is his KC lunch...hopefully
he is at one of his, now publicly funded by taxpayers, swanky palaces so not to mess up the WH floor.

Tikki

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