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calimary

(81,440 posts)
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:06 PM Apr 2017

WORDS MATTER!!!! Democrats HAVE TO get better about messaging!!! Learn from George Lakoff:

DUer lastlib suggested I make an OP about this from another thread ( http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028894969 ), so here goes. Messaging seems so silly and superficial, but it's NOT! It's absolutely DEADLY urgent:

WORDS MATTER!!!! We can learn some valuable things from Professor George Lakoff.

https://georgelakoff.com/2017/02/10/ten-points-for-democracy-activists/

We CANNOT afford to use other people's framings and memes and sloganeering. That only reinforces THEIR views and ways of speaking and verbal manipulations and PERCEPTION MANAGEMENT. WE need to manage that perception. All these are true. And the examples in the OP are TRUE. He is NOT legitimate as "president," and he did NOT legitimately win (not if you've got Vladimir Putin putting a big fat heavy thumb on the scale from behind the scenes to help him win - which the entire intel community confirms).

WORDS MATTER! HOW you communicate is as important as WHAT you communicate. Maybe even MORE important. And it just sucks so bad that the gang with the worst ideas has the best and most effective messaging about those bad ideas. By contrast, Our side has the best ideas, but we're shitty at messaging.

Lakoff understands this. And I'll bet, from the results we see all the time, that precisely NONE of our Dems have heard or read anything George Lakoff has had to say about this.

One other example he's offered - that addresses something which SERIOUSLY irks me:

When the bad guys hiss the word "regulations"

WE NEED TO COUNTER WITH "PROTECTIONS."

Because that's what they ARE.

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lastlib

(23,271 posts)
1. Thank you, Calimary!
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:17 PM
Apr 2017

This is an important message that EVERY duer needs to understand and pick up on. We Dems need to be able to draw the right word picture that will resonate with voters and convey our message with maximum effect. It will be important in the coming cycle to define the terrain with OUR words (NOT theirs), and seize the verbal high ground.

Phoenix61

(17,015 posts)
2. I heard about Lakoff on DU
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:18 PM
Apr 2017

And read what he had to say. IMO, he is spot on. Words are loaded with meanings and it's not always the ones in the dictionary that matter the most. The rabbit industry had a contest years ago to find a name they could use to market rabbit meat. The cattle industry gets this. There's a reason it's labeled ground beef not ground cow. Words matter immensely. I deeply hope that Perez gets this.

mikeysnot

(4,757 posts)
3. The RWA Conservative will never hear it.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:19 PM
Apr 2017

The media will never let them hear it.

They do not and will not watch the "lesbian" on MSNBC.

They will never vote democratic, ever.

They will never accept anything that the wrong wing pundits label either:

progressive
liberal
socialist

They have no understanding what these words mean

Hillary had great messaging and great speeches, but if you talk to a wrong winger she ran terrible campaign and she is crooked.

RWA do not read unless it has these mugs Bill oh-really, sean or ann's on the cover.

calimary

(81,440 posts)
9. True. Because they don't want to.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 03:38 PM
Apr 2017

And for years now, they've been able to settle down comfortably into a nice safe little whites-only bubble world, with their own hate-radio networks and their own cable TV outlet that parrots and repeats the CONservative world view, as cockeyed as it is. So they have LOTS of reinforcement for their own cockeyed views. Hell, they've even got flat-out conspiracy wackos like Alex Jones with their own outlets to spread their shit. And nobody telling them what they have to do or broadcast or genuinely-honestly balance their coverage and give equal time - because their good buddy ronald reagan did away with protections like the Fairness Doctrine and the Equal Time provisions, and then also - the limitations on the number of broadcast properties any one owner could own.

Wonder why - nowadays - there are basically SIX big broadcasting/information-brokering conglomerates that own everything? Didn't used to be that way. In the late 80s at the end of reagan, all those protections and regulations were done away with. Used to be the ownership of stations - both radio and TV - numbered in the THOUSANDS. But with the rules changes came this orgy of mergers and acquisitions where all the little Mom&Pop stations got bought up by bigger corporations that found syndication a lot cheaper than having to hire all those thousands of local jocks, news folk, engineers, and management teams. You could just sit one big famous guy down in a studio in Midtown Manhattan and spout some generic morning show or afternoon show or midday show and pipe it out to your hundreds and hundreds of radio stations. Screw the local community!

Indeed. There used to be a rule that I personally had to follow as a news director at several local stations here in L.A. It was called "ascertainment."

It was often viewed at the front-line level as kind of a pain in the ass. But it MATTERED!!!

What management at any given station was legally bound to do was OUTREACH - actively and directly to community leaders and officials, to get their views of what the local issues and concerns were. We had forms to fill out - who, what, when, where, and why, plus comments. And then WE as station people were legally bound to devise programming to address those local issues and concerns we'd learned about in our own personal individual outreach efforts. I used to do it with interview subjects, all the time. Tape the public affairs show with the local or marquee-name official and then after you finished, quick, whip out the ascertainment form and do an additional two or three minutes' worth with them, ask them all the questions, and fill out the form accordingly. And then turn it in. The public affairs director kept them logged and in a big binder. Those binders were public property (as was the station, btw). ANYBODY could come in and ask to see them and leaf through the pages of ascertainment interviews. Stations HAD TO keep that material to prove how worthy they were to keep their broadcast licenses - which came up for renewal every few years, and could (and often were) challenged by various people or citizen groups that sought to hold stations' feet to the fire and work for more than just their advertisers. It was the way your station proved that you were generating programming that addressed the needs and concerns of the community YOU were serving as holder of a broadcast license in the public trust.

All of management was supposed to do this, but the GM and sales manager and chief engineer and so forth always farmed it out to us news directors and public affairs directors. I personally must have done hundreds of them.

reagan did away with all that. Never mind that you were licensed to use those airwaves THAT THE PUBLIC OWNS. You didn't have to prove you were worthy of it, any longer. Anybody even slightly younger than I am might remember when their local morning jock got laid off, and suddenly Howard Stern took over. From New York. By syndication. And he didn't know or care what the hell was going on in YOUR neighborhood or your community. Because he did the one show every morning that was piped out to maybe a thousand other stations all over everywhere. But for local management - just think of the money they saved, NOT having to hire all that local talent! Of course, soon enough, some of those local management teams discovered themselves unemployed, too. Instead, the giant owner-conglomerates could get by with "management cluster" people - who handled maybe the entire Southeast. Or the Northwest. Big cities like L.A. usually were clusters all by themselves. But you'd have ONE guy with designer jeans and a carefully barbered beard (rarely any women got hired for this kind of job) determining what 20 or 30 stations (or more) in the region were playing and saying. Far too many of my friends at the local level lost their jobs and sometimes wound up leaving the business altogether. Some REALLY good and talented ones, too. SUCKED!

JUST FREAKIN' SUCKED. As did the business, before long, too. Ever wonder why so many stations all sound alike? Well, that's the reason.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
4. while I agree with the approach, the word is "regulations" and its not a GOP word
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:22 PM
Apr 2017

we call them "rules and regulations". The chance of changing that is slim. I hated that the GOP got away with death taxes and death panels. We should call this administration a "death panel". That's what they want to do to the uninsured and poor.

calimary

(81,440 posts)
5. Remember, too, their side has people like Frank Luntz who will focus-test words and phrases
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 02:13 PM
Apr 2017

to find the most easily weaponized ways to say things. And things that will get a rise out of people, viscerally and subliminally.

Notice we're now hearing the word "weaponized" applied to this stuff. It's fitting. Where there technically are no bullets or guns or tanks or Howitzers or other real-live weapons. In this case, it's words. Words. And phrases. Ways to word things strategically to compound and amplify meanings and give the message yet another shot of Vitamin B-12.

WE should be referring to these "rules and regs" as PROTECTIONS. Because that's what they do and what they are and the reason they're there. To PROTECT from industry polluting your water, poisoning your ground soil, polluting the very air you breathe - to make a buck.

And you're right, Hamlette! We SHOULD call this administration a "death panel." That's what they're turning out to be. And I'd bet the word "death" was thoroughly focus-group tested to be applied all over the place, because the very WORD "death" is so loaded as to be like plutonium in five letters.

I'd just as soon prefer that Democrats drop the word "regulation(s)" completely. Because that word, too, has been so shat upon that now its connotation is almost 100% negative with so many unwitting Americans who don't realize they're being royally played. Word-played.

calimary

(81,440 posts)
7. Which is why we need to re-double and re-triple/quadruple/quintuple our efforts!
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 03:12 PM
Apr 2017

We're that many decades BEHIND.

They have such a big head start.

They started getting wise about this in the early 70s. Attorney and good Chamber of Commerce buddy Lewis Powell wrote this blueprint for a political/societal/electoral CONservative takeover. Because the business types just hated what those "dirty hippies" and "uppity women" were doing to change things in this country. Powell was later rather sweetly rewarded with a Supreme Court seat, nominated by Richard Nixon.

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
10. I'm not worried about our message or our words. Russians and GOP traitors stole the election.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 03:42 PM
Apr 2017

No change of words is going to fix that. We need to demand a transparent election process.

This place is getting all kinds of fouled up with talk of how "shitty" Democrats are at this or that. Reminds me of how we got so divided last year.



Crunchy Frog

(26,619 posts)
12. This has been a subject on DU for as long as I've been on here.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 09:41 PM
Apr 2017

It way predates the last election, or the Russians. It's not about the Dems being "shitty", but about how they can become more effective.

It's incomprehensible to me that people would find that offensive.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. Democrats tend to use big words and unclear phraseology too often.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 05:02 PM
Apr 2017

A republican can be lying through his or her teeth, but come off better because people understand what they are saying.

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