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babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:33 PM Apr 2017

NYT: C.I.A. Had Evidence of Russian Effort to Help Trump Earlier Than Believed

C.I.A. Had Evidence of Russian Effort to Help Trump Earlier Than Believed

By ERIC LICHTBLAU
APRIL 6, 2017



WASHINGTON — The C.I.A. told senior lawmakers in classified briefings last summer that it had information indicating that Russia was working to help elect Donald J. Trump president, a finding that did not emerge publicly until after Mr. Trump’s victory months later, former government officials say.

The briefings indicate that intelligence officials had evidence of Russia’s intentions to help Mr. Trump much earlier in the presidential campaign than previously thought. The briefings also reveal a critical split last summer between the C.I.A. and counterparts at the F.B.I., where a number of senior officials continued to believe through last fall that Russia’s cyberattacks were aimed only at disrupting America’s political system, and not at getting Mr. Trump elected, according to interviews.

The former officials said that in late August — 10 weeks before the election — John O. Brennan, then the C.I.A. director, was so concerned about increasing evidence of Russia’s election meddling that he began a series of urgent, individual briefings for eight top members of Congress, some of them on secure phone lines while they were on their summer break.

It is unclear what new intelligence might have prompted the classified briefings. But with concerns growing both internally and publicly at the time about a significant Russian breach of the Democratic National Committee, the C.I.A. began seeing signs of possible connections to the Trump campaign, the officials said. By the final weeks of the campaign, Congress and the intelligence agencies were racing to understand the scope of the Russia threat.

In an Aug. 25 briefing for Harry Reid, then the top Democrat in the Senate, Mr. Brennan indicated that Russia’s hackings appeared aimed at helping Mr. Trump win the November election, according to two former officials with knowledge of the briefing.

The officials said Mr. Brennan also indicated that unnamed advisers to Mr. Trump might be working with the Russians to interfere in the election. The F.B.I. and two congressional committees are now investigating that claim, focusing on possible communications and financial dealings between Russian affiliates and a handful of former advisers to Mr. Trump. So far, no proof of collusion has emerged publicly.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/us/trump-russia-cia-john-brennan.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

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NYT: C.I.A. Had Evidence of Russian Effort to Help Trump Earlier Than Believed (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2017 OP
Kick. dalton99a Apr 2017 #1
Maybe a private tutor could instruct Ivanka, Ryan, and McConnell on the meaning of complicit. tanyev Apr 2017 #2
Why, Ivanka already told us what the meaning of "complicit" is Ezior Apr 2017 #9
Is she running for Miss U.S.A.? Boomerproud Apr 2017 #11
Let them use vouchers! n/t VOX Apr 2017 #13
Correction: Hopefully the FBI is investigating the claim, but at least one of the "Congressional Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #3
Republicans and Russians against America Achilleaze Apr 2017 #4
8 top members of congress were briefed. Name them. Question them Freethinker65 Apr 2017 #5
The turtle knew malaise Apr 2017 #8
That s.o.b. keeps adding to his reactionary resume... VOX Apr 2017 #16
Collusion and corruption most foul malaise Apr 2017 #21
I bet Grassley and Feinstein, for starters. Remember their looks of horror? babylonsister Apr 2017 #14
"Gang of 8" consists of DeminPennswoods Apr 2017 #19
Senator Wyden on Senate Intel has been pushing for public hearings and making the info availavble Amaryllis Apr 2017 #27
A president has an obligation to protect the country Stinky The Clown Apr 2017 #6
He tried in October but according to this, was concerned babylonsister Apr 2017 #10
Also, in October, H Clinton... davekriss Apr 2017 #12
Leak, leak, leak...drip, drip, drip. roamer65 Apr 2017 #7
I can't wait for the "throw away the key moment" L. Coyote Apr 2017 #15
How much BigmanPigman Apr 2017 #17
Welcome to DU, BigmanPigman. calimary Apr 2017 #18
I took most of the day off - could not take anymore this morning malaise Apr 2017 #22
Hah! I kinda did, too. Just couldn't bear to even half-watch the Gorsuch heist. calimary Apr 2017 #23
That Gorsuch heist did it for me as well malaise Apr 2017 #24
Gorsuch heist. Aptly named. Amaryllis Apr 2017 #28
I did, too. babylonsister Apr 2017 #26
Lucky you malaise Apr 2017 #29
I'm taking faith in knowing babylonsister Apr 2017 #30
Hey, join the club! babylonsister Apr 2017 #20
K & R FailureToCommunicate Apr 2017 #25
And now they can operate with complete impunity. And immunity. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #31
There is no doubt Russia was helping him however the question is did he (Trump) know about it cstanleytech Apr 2017 #32

Ezior

(505 posts)
9. Why, Ivanka already told us what the meaning of "complicit" is
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 07:31 PM
Apr 2017

She said it on TV on Wednesday: "If being complicit ... is wanting to be a force for good and to make a positive impact, then I'm complicit."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/05/ivanka-trump-says-complicit-disagrees-dad-knows/

See, they all just want to be forces for good and make a positive impact.

Boomerproud

(7,957 posts)
11. Is she running for Miss U.S.A.?
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 07:34 PM
Apr 2017

That is such an airheaded beauty pageant statement. Go back tp designing purses Ivanka.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
3. Correction: Hopefully the FBI is investigating the claim, but at least one of the "Congressional
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:41 PM
Apr 2017

Committees" is investigating how to make this about blaming the Obama administration for looking into the crime, rather than the crime itself.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
4. Republicans and Russians against America
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:43 PM
Apr 2017

The Republican traitors who have sold out America to the evil Empire of Russia must be brought to justice.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
16. That s.o.b. keeps adding to his reactionary resume...
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 08:37 PM
Apr 2017

And with Mrs. Turtle holding a cabinet post, their government-parasite factor is through the roof.

babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
14. I bet Grassley and Feinstein, for starters. Remember their looks of horror?
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 08:22 PM
Apr 2017

Hey, who knows?

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/senate-intel-leaders-feinstein-and-grassley-grim-and-silent-after-trump-russia-briefings-with-comey/

Senators Feinstein and Grassley grim and silent after Trump-Russia briefings with Comey
David Ferguson
David Ferguson
15 Mar 2017 at 17:49 ET

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
19. "Gang of 8" consists of
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 08:59 PM
Apr 2017

House majority and minority leaders (2)
Senate majority and minority leaders (2)
House Intell Cmte chairman and ranking member (2)
Senate Intell Cmte chairman and ranking member (2)

I suspect this is why Harry Reid put out that letter begging for the intelligence community to put out what they told him.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
27. Senator Wyden on Senate Intel has been pushing for public hearings and making the info availavble
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 09:39 PM
Apr 2017

to the public since last summer.

babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
10. He tried in October but according to this, was concerned
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 07:31 PM
Apr 2017

his involvement would be perceived as interfering in the election, and we know that's true.

I imagine there are other reasons, ones the FBI are currently using to keep us in the dark.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/obama-administration-accuses-russian-government-of-election-year-hacking-229296
Obama administration accuses Russian government of election-year hacking

davekriss

(4,618 posts)
12. Also, in October, H Clinton...
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 08:18 PM
Apr 2017

...looked like a sure thing. When McConnell threatened to disparage Democrats as trying to gain further advantage, it made no sense to go public.

Most likely the thought was that President Clinton would address these Russian acts of war after her inauguration.

Then there was the Comey uppercut... at that time all should have been made public as H Clinton was collapsing in the polls (although it still looked like she'd win).

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
15. I can't wait for the "throw away the key moment"
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 08:26 PM
Apr 2017

In many other other countries, the "off with their heads" moment would have passed already.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
17. How much
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 08:46 PM
Apr 2017

more of this can we take? Everything I think I can't possibly get angrier or hate them more than I already do I find a new level of anger. I need a 20 pound Xanax.

calimary

(81,332 posts)
18. Welcome to DU, BigmanPigman.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 08:53 PM
Apr 2017

Move over. I need some of that, too.

This just gets me angrier and angrier!

I swear - if we don't go all out to get everybody off their lazy asses to go vote in the next midterms, we are worthless. And we'll deserve what we get.

malaise

(269,067 posts)
22. I took most of the day off - could not take anymore this morning
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 09:04 PM
Apr 2017

I bought some lovely flowers - and came home and baked some cinnamon cup cakes.

Fugg all ReTHUGs and neo-cons too.

calimary

(81,332 posts)
23. Hah! I kinda did, too. Just couldn't bear to even half-watch the Gorsuch heist.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 09:12 PM
Apr 2017

Just couldn't do it. Too depressing.

Food Network had some nice baking competitions this morning, though. And the dog gets a longer walk.

babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
26. I did, too.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 09:39 PM
Apr 2017

Goodwill was fun, bras in Penny's not so much, but I can't do this 24/7. Work tomorrow, where I take care of my 89 year old proud Dem dad and we watch news and kvetch. And do lunch.

malaise

(269,067 posts)
29. Lucky you
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 09:45 PM
Apr 2017

Our last remaining aunt died last week - she was 97.

I can't watch this - Iraq was more than I could bear. This is way too convenient

babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
30. I'm taking faith in knowing
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 09:54 PM
Apr 2017

or hoping cooler heads will prevail. I keep hoping...

As for dimson, I hear you. I never thought it could be worse, but it is and has been for a long time. We can't let this bastard ruin our country.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
32. There is no doubt Russia was helping him however the question is did he (Trump) know about it
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 11:57 PM
Apr 2017

and was he coordinating it and or communicating with Russia about it in any way either directly or via a 3rd party? Proving that he did that would be a major story as that could be grounds for impeachment.

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