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I think we should take a look at this new guy for the 2020 Dem nominee (Original Post) NightWatcher Apr 2017 OP
I can't put my finger on it, but he looks a wee bit familiar. Ilsa Apr 2017 #1
Richard Pryor? panader0 Apr 2017 #25
yes! and say "not this sh!t again" when they ask for a birth certificate! unblock Apr 2017 #2
Lol nycbos Apr 2017 #3
Put funny glasses on him and then nobody would know for sure Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #4
Great idea world wide wally Apr 2017 #5
He probably has to wear a disguise sometimes when going out in public... dubyadiprecession Apr 2017 #6
I really like the cut of his jib. n/t Greybnk48 Apr 2017 #7
Ha! Still makes me laugh. I wish, but does he have a birth certificate? babylonsister Apr 2017 #8
just the short form. mopinko Apr 2017 #21
He looks good like that nt irisblue Apr 2017 #9
He does! whathehell Apr 2017 #23
Heh! ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #10
All he needs is a blond squirrel on his head and he could get into the white house today. George II Apr 2017 #11
Si se puede!!! Lobo27 Apr 2017 #12
¡Venceremos! WinkyDink Apr 2017 #13
I heard he was really born in Columbia. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #14
Just the way Lucy could always fool Ricky... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #15
LOL. nt Blue_true Apr 2017 #16
Looks like a Bad Hombre! johnp3907 Apr 2017 #17
OMG, that's hilarious!!!! Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #18
Oh god so beautiful. Made me major laugh. byronius Apr 2017 #19
Bahama... I don't know... rpannier Apr 2017 #20
LOL...I love it! whathehell Apr 2017 #22
Wish tiptonic Apr 2017 #24
Well I am not a guy so I guess you aren't asking me. Is this for the Men's Lounge? not GD delisen Apr 2017 #26
Seriously? NightWatcher Apr 2017 #27
Seriously guys means male; gals means female, if you want to include everyone delisen Apr 2017 #30
With all that's going on in the world, this sets you off? Well here then NightWatcher Apr 2017 #31
Sorry you are not interested in an issue of equality. delisen Apr 2017 #36
The fact that this even needs to be posted is sad. Good lord. 7962 Apr 2017 #43
In the midwest BainsBane Apr 2017 #29
I think you guys makes gals invisible in the same way addressing mixed delisen Apr 2017 #32
The problem is a deficit in the English language BainsBane Apr 2017 #33
I think we are creative enough to find alternatives that will work for the future delisen Apr 2017 #39
Those are good options BainsBane Apr 2017 #41
Teddy Roosevelt ran in 1912 four years after he left office 1909 brush Apr 2017 #28
No...T.R. didn't server 2 terms. /nt sdfernando Apr 2017 #35
FDR's 4th win scared them into passing an amendment limiting presidents to 2 terms. nt tblue37 Apr 2017 #37
Now we need term limits for Congress 7962 Apr 2017 #45
Lose the pornstache! it is unbecoming /nt sdfernando Apr 2017 #34
HA! 7962 Apr 2017 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #38
I don't know who he is but he has my vote! Glimmer of Hope Apr 2017 #40
Viva Juan Bahama! n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #42
LOL, I keep looking at this! R B Garr Apr 2017 #46

world wide wally

(21,745 posts)
5. Great idea
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 07:31 PM
Apr 2017

Just refuse to show his birth certificate, income taxes, and physical examination documents. The precedent has been set.

dubyadiprecession

(5,716 posts)
6. He probably has to wear a disguise sometimes when going out in public...
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 07:46 PM
Apr 2017

But I know he is Juan Bahama and can easily defeat Donald Dum%*@#* in 2020!

delisen

(6,044 posts)
30. Seriously guys means male; gals means female, if you want to include everyone
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:47 PM
Apr 2017

you might try "people."

So your post is inviting guys (men)to consider a new guy (male).

If you don't think language matters or that females are included in the term "males," you might try addressing a mixed audience as just "ladies" instead of Ladies and Gentleman" or as women instead of "Men and Women"

Using "guys" when addressing everyone is like the old days when women were not allowed in the public sphere.

I think that men and woman are equal, and women are not a subset of men (that wasthe Adam's rib anti-scientific story or creation).

If you think it doesn't matter anymore try addressing a mixed audience as "gals." and see if men think they are included. They may even be offended.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
31. With all that's going on in the world, this sets you off? Well here then
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:56 PM
Apr 2017

From the Oxford English Dictionary. See definition 1.1.


https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/guy

1informal A man.
‘he's a nice guy’

1.1guys People of either sex.
‘you guys want some coffee?’


Don't try this Gotcha crap when you can tell my intentions.

Feel free to add me to your Ignore list.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
36. Sorry you are not interested in an issue of equality.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 03:14 PM
Apr 2017

The Oxford dictionary attesting to informal usage is meaningless regarding the issue of equality.

I cannot tell your intentions.

In general I do not ignore people.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
43. The fact that this even needs to be posted is sad. Good lord.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 07:11 PM
Apr 2017

EVERYTHING, not matter how trivial, pisses off someone. What a sad existence
And yes, THIS is about as trivial as you can get. Hope this person never comes down south, where every waitress will ask "are you guys doing OK?"

delisen

(6,044 posts)
32. I think you guys makes gals invisible in the same way addressing mixed
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 03:01 PM
Apr 2017

audiences as Gentlemen used to make women invisible.

I could feel the difference in Germany, when mixed groups of men, women, and children were addressed as People

Guten Morgen, Leute. ---everyone was included equally

Once in a while I address a group of men as "you gals"----the negative reaction is immediate.

Few women object to "you guys." I think this is the legacy of of women being considered a subset of men.

I use the term people for groups because it is a term of equality- every human being is a person-whether identifying as male, female, child or identifying as none of the above. As we deal with gender identity issues, I think it helps to use one term for all of us that doesn't carry the freight of inequality.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
33. The problem is a deficit in the English language
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 03:04 PM
Apr 2017

for a second person plural. Other options are y'all and yous, which are also regional. "You people" is taken as a negative. It's hard to find an alternative.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
39. I think we are creative enough to find alternatives that will work for the future
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 03:35 PM
Apr 2017

"All of you" sounds fine to me as does , "You all". I favor "people" because all are included-children as well as people who do not identify with the historic genders.

The term people keeps us all in the human family -similarly many disabled people prefer that they be referred to as disabled people rather than "the disabled."

I understand your point regarding the deficiencies of English.It is a good point and one worth pondering.

I find the new experimental pronouns difficult use (so far) but understand the how some people do feel trapped in the traditional language.





brush

(53,792 posts)
28. Teddy Roosevelt ran in 1912 four years after he left office 1909
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:28 PM
Apr 2017

He didn't win but is that now illegal?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
45. Now we need term limits for Congress
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 07:14 PM
Apr 2017

Yes, I support them. Its not supposed to be a lifetime.

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