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itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 08:48 PM Apr 2017

Didn't Hillary have a No-Fly Zone plan for Syria which may have

averted the Syrian Air Force from gassing its own people? 12 hours after supposedly blowing the crap out of the Syrian Air Base with 85 Million dollars in Cruise Missiles, the air base is back in operation and running missions.

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Didn't Hillary have a No-Fly Zone plan for Syria which may have (Original Post) itsrobert Apr 2017 OP
yes that was her plan Ohioblue22 Apr 2017 #1
I think so. But don't quote me. Igel Apr 2017 #2
Yes and no karynnj Apr 2017 #3
Interesting politicasista Apr 2017 #4

Igel

(35,320 posts)
2. I think so. But don't quote me.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 09:53 PM
Apr 2017

However, a no-fly zone is only as good as the will and muscle to engage in military operations that risk lives and planes (etc.).

The last no-fly zone was against the Iraqis. You know, the country that buried the remains of their air force in order to protect it?


Now, as for the air base the report I heard was that two planes took off. That might be all the mission that the Syrian air command thought appropriate. It might also be all that the Syrians had left on the ground. Or it might be that people confused a Russian take-off from a nearby base. After all, the report came from the London-based, opposition "observatory", reporting on leaks.

We accept that it was a large mission because we want it to be; we accept that the report of two planes taking off from that base is true without independent verification because we want it to be. We assume that they're Syrian planes. And we assume that the runways must not have been intact because, well, who could possibly repair a runway in 12 hours?

https://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/virtual_disk_library/index.cgi/821003/FID581/pubs/af/10/afpam10-219v4/afpam10-219v4.pdf indicates procedures that the US had 20 years ago for repairing crater damage in 4 hours. If the Russians had advance warning they could have had materiel en route before the missiles were launched. (And meaning that many Syrian planes may have been relocated or quickly moved under cover to avoid being targetted.)

Moreover, the Syrians cited by the "observatory" had a vested interest in showing, for reasons of honor and pride, that the attack had minimal effect. Honor and pride are potent reasons for being intentionally mistaken as far as the truth is concerned. Yet their word is gold.

What's mostly important is what we're not being told. Now, what, exactly, aren't we being told. That would be strictly speculation, and we've had too much of that passed off as fact already.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
3. Yes and no
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 10:43 PM
Apr 2017

She had spoken of wanting a no fly zone in a section of the country, likely near the Turkish border controlled by the Kurds and the rebels.

This would NOT have been in Homs where the air strike happened.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
4. Interesting
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 02:03 AM
Apr 2017

What do you think about this article?

Don't know much about the author's party affiliation, but even in private citizen life, some can't catch a break.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/trump-syria-democratic-hawks-237024

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