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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 03:29 PM Apr 2017

Robert Reich on dt's decision to bomb Syria

Robert Reich
15 mins ·

Just as they did with Trump’s non-shouting address to Congress a few weeks ago, pundits are describing Trump’s decision to bomb Syria as the first time he’s acted “presidential” and lived up to the expectations of the office.

Rubbish.

Reversing existing policy to impulsively bomb another country after seeing footage of dead Syrian children on Fox News is not acting presidential.

If the sight of the dead children really did affect Trump, he would have paired his bombing with an announcement about admitting refugees so they won’t be subjected to further threats from the Assad regime.

And he would have responded to the pleas of the Newtown, Connecticut School Board to acknowledge that 20 children and six adults were murdered at the Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, and denounce his supporter, Alex Jones, who continues to claim the tragedy was a hoax.

Trump isn’t acting presidential. He’s still acting like Trump – impulsive, vindictive, superficial, inconsistent, and hypocritical.


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Robert Reich on dt's decision to bomb Syria (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2017 OP
So true. Wellstone ruled Apr 2017 #1
True. Delphinus Apr 2017 #2
Personally, I suspect there was a lot of arm twisting by the Joint Chiefs Warpy Apr 2017 #3
You're most likely right, but it doesn't really matter. babylonsister Apr 2017 #5
this is not true. Obama did want to go in but he wanted congress allies and much JI7 Apr 2017 #7
Obama wanted to do it legally. The Joint Chiefs didn't care. Warpy Apr 2017 #9
it has nothing to do with being smart. Since it wasn't JI7 Apr 2017 #10
I'm in the more cynical camp best explained by The Onion That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #14
That requires truly Machiavellian thinking, and I doubt Dolt has read that book Warpy Apr 2017 #16
I think you're on to something Kath2 Apr 2017 #19
Why isn't ANYONE talking about the proposed Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline.... AntiFascist Apr 2017 #25
That's one reason they want all this shit settled Warpy Apr 2017 #27
Nothing is settled since this pipeline would benefit Russia and Iran... AntiFascist Apr 2017 #28
!00% true. lark Apr 2017 #4
I like how he always ends his post with "What do you think?" Glimmer of Hope Apr 2017 #6
We have all the facts but they ignore anything outside their bubble. BSdetect Apr 2017 #8
Link? Idoru Apr 2017 #11
Facebook. nt babylonsister Apr 2017 #13
Did Van Jones fall on his fainting couch again, too? calimary Apr 2017 #12
Let's face it: Assad is a monster. And there's no pretending that Obama would CTyankee Apr 2017 #15
I immediately thought of Sandy Hook when he oozed about the babies. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2017 #17
I think the MSM zentrum Apr 2017 #18
I think this.. Cha Apr 2017 #20
What do I think? I think you hit the nail directly on the head! spanone Apr 2017 #21
Love Your Columns and Comments All the Time linnknee Apr 2017 #22
Of course he's right! WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2017 #23
Riech is piling up the reasons/laws that can be used to impeach this bastard. DK504 Apr 2017 #24
I agree. My first thought was of the SandyHook babies that underthematrix Apr 2017 #26

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
3. Personally, I suspect there was a lot of arm twisting by the Joint Chiefs
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 03:56 PM
Apr 2017

who have wanted to go in for a long time but were stymied by the wiser thinking of Obama.

Face it, Dolt doesn't give a shit about a bunch of dead Syrian peasants, especially the kiddies. He can't make any money of Syrian peasant kiddies. He didn't feel betrayed by Assad, he didn't feel betrayed by Putin, and Bannon is still his chief of staff.

I don't think this whiplash inducing policy change was Dolt's idea. I don't think it was his idea to shitcan Bannon at the NSC. I don't think it was his idea to tweak Putin's nose by launching million dollar missiles at an air base with MIGs and Russian pilots around. And I notice how uncharacteristically subdued his statement after the fact was, with no bravado, no boasting, and absolutely no bully's swagger. I'd have expected a "We showed THEM!!" but it wasn't there.

I could be wrong, of course, I've worked enough psych that I know how unpredictable a loony bin can be, especially one that specializes in unmedicated people off the street. However, I smell a rat in this one and for once, it's not Dolt.

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
5. You're most likely right, but it doesn't really matter.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 04:20 PM
Apr 2017

He had to give his say-so whether he thought it up or not. So he owns it.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
7. this is not true. Obama did want to go in but he wanted congress allies and much
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 04:32 PM
Apr 2017

More support for it. He also had a larger goal and didn't just want sometHing for show.

Trump did all this for show and to cover for his support for assad .

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
9. Obama wanted to do it legally. The Joint Chiefs didn't care.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 04:44 PM
Apr 2017

I don't think Dolt is this smart. And then there is Bannon getting the boot from the NSC.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
14. I'm in the more cynical camp best explained by The Onion
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:25 PM
Apr 2017
Trump Confident U.S. Military Strike On Syria Wiped Out Russian Scandal:

WASHINGTON—After ordering the first U.S. military attack against the regime of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, President Donald Trump held a press conference Friday to express his full confidence that the airstrike had completely wiped out the lingering Russian scandal. “Based on intelligence we have received over the past several hours, the attack on the al-Shayrat air base in Homs has successfully eliminated all discussions and allegations about my administration’s ties to the Russian government,” said Trump, adding that at approximately 4:40 a.m. local time, 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from U.S. naval ships obliterated all traces of the widespread controversy in news outlets across the media. “Ordering this strike was not a decision I took lightly, but given that it was the only way to decisively eradicate any attention being paid to congressional investigations into possible collusion between key members of my staff and high-ranking Kremlin officials, I decided it was a necessary course of action. If we learn that any remnants of this scandal remain after this attack, I will not hesitate to order further strikes.” Trump went on to say that he is leaving the option open for a potential ground invasion of Syria if any troubling evidence emerges that the Russian government manipulated the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.


The best humor is based on truth.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
16. That requires truly Machiavellian thinking, and I doubt Dolt has read that book
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:53 PM
Apr 2017

And then there is Bannon, which doesn't fit this at all. Remember, he's still Chief of Staff. Even though the news today says he and Kushner have kissed and made up, the only place either would bury the hatchet is in the other's back.

The truth is that the WH is almost as much of a clusterfuck as Syria is. We don't know the truth about either place.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
25. Why isn't ANYONE talking about the proposed Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline....
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 03:35 PM
Apr 2017

that would help meet the demand for natural gas in Europe? When billions of dollars of revenue are at stake anything is possible, and the gassing of innocents and children becomes a convenient cover story to drum up popular support for US military involvement in the tug-of-war over this pipeline.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/aug/30/syria-chemical-attack-war-intervention-oil-gas-energy-pipelines

"Syria intervention plan fueled by oil interests, not chemical weapon concern
Massacres of civilians are being exploited for narrow geopolitical competition to control Mideast oil, gas pipelines"

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
27. That's one reason they want all this shit settled
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 04:08 PM
Apr 2017

but good luck to them in getting it built and not blown up considering all the tribes and sects in the region hate each other and have done so for over a thousand years.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
28. Nothing is settled since this pipeline would benefit Russia and Iran...
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 04:19 PM
Apr 2017

also note that Saudi Prince Bandar has vowed military action.

Idoru

(167 posts)
11. Link?
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 04:51 PM
Apr 2017

Where was this posted? (btw, I do think that is the rule here and it is to give credit to the writers with a link back)

calimary

(81,322 posts)
12. Did Van Jones fall on his fainting couch again, too?
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:10 PM
Apr 2017

trump doesn't fool me for a nanosecond.

If the photos of dead children bothered him, he'd have already been bothered by the shot of that tiny little boy, dead, in the surf, his body washed ashore, face mostly down in the sand, from an attempted escape from that hell hole.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
15. Let's face it: Assad is a monster. And there's no pretending that Obama would
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:28 PM
Apr 2017

not almost certainly have responded milltarily after giving the negotiations a chance. First tiime, try to resolve through international cooperatiion. Second time, you have no choice but to show we mean it.

After all, Obama was done with Bin Laden's actions and ordered up the Navy Seals. This vital to our security and no faked up military action, like Trump's.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
17. I immediately thought of Sandy Hook when he oozed about the babies.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 06:03 PM
Apr 2017

He always sounds so phoney that sincerity would never register even if offered.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
18. I think the MSM
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 06:26 PM
Apr 2017

....is encouraging him to be reckless internationally, to use war to handle any ratings problems, to bomb when there are stories he wants buried, and that blood is on the hands of every one of these pundits.

They are rewarding his erratic impulses and thus they are normalizing erratic-ness.

It profoundly harms the country, the world and the whole idea and meaning of the fourth estate.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
20. I think this..
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 12:54 AM
Apr 2017


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028908051

And, that's what I was saying yesterday..

Just as they did with Trump’s non-shouting address to Congress a few weeks ago, pundits are describing Trump’s decision to bomb Syria as the first time he’s acted “presidential” and lived up to the expectations of the office.

Thank you, RR

linnknee

(52 posts)
22. Love Your Columns and Comments All the Time
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 09:11 AM
Apr 2017

Amen, dog poop is still dog poop whether it is in the street or on your carpet. Pooping on the carpet does not make a dog a house pet.

SNLsaid the incompetent ass could not read a script. Hard to believe to this day, ANYONE VOTED FOR HIM. Rigged Rigged Rigged. I don't think I'll ever believe otherwise.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
23. Of course he's right!
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 12:50 PM
Apr 2017

I still think Donny and Vlad are planning to divide up the world between the two of them. Assad doesn't realize it yet, but he's expendable.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
24. Riech is piling up the reasons/laws that can be used to impeach this bastard.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 01:51 PM
Apr 2017

"... pundits are describing Trump’s decision to bomb Syria as the first time he’s acted “presidential” and lived up to the expectations of the office."

Was that Van Jones talking about he became "pre*idental"?

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
26. I agree. My first thought was of the SandyHook babies that
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 03:41 PM
Apr 2017

Republicans don't give a phuck about. I always wonder how we Americans would feel if a ME nation decided to bomb us because we refused to reduce gun violence through gun sense legislation.

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