Taibbi is just one of those lefties who are so committed to the idea that the Dems choosing Clinton was a bad idea that they are forced by some weird necessity to deny any Russian involvement in the election.

Greenwald is hot trash, though.

Weird.

got their rw talking points down.

she strongly supported Hillary over DT.

And you cannot find a single post where I "championed" Mensch.

and you and I have had this convo already.

lol I'm selling you a bridge.
She's a conspiracy freak and you know it.

And they did. And we KNOW that after the initial spontaneous days of the protest, many outsiders came to join in. Those outsiders certainly could have included some with connections to Russia.

From 2014:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/russia-is-trolling-the-us-over-ferguson-yet-again?utm_term=.lp6rBVmGm#.svgJRepmp

KIEV, Ukraine — Russian media has been unable to contain its glee at the news that fresh riots have broken out in Ferguson: America is gripped in the throes of a violent race war as retribution for the bloody revolution it had plotted against Moscow’s allies in Ukraine, according to the pro-Kremlin press.

“The conflict in Ferguson isn’t a one-time event, but something profound,” Russian state television anchor Alexander Khristenko said on the Rossiya channel. “Race relations, social inequality, a black ghetto — the fragile world that hardly held itself together through a belief in just a little bit of fairness, it seems, has finally collapsed.”

Russian media, which usually prioritize coverage of Vladimir Putin’s every move and the Ukraine crisis ahead of more distant international events, have run wall-to-wall bulletins on the violence in Ferguson since it began in August. Coverage of the fresh rioting led every pro-Kremlin newscast on Tuesday. Russia Today, the Kremlin’s English-language propaganda channel, broadcast live from the scene.

For the Kremlin, the upheaval in the U.S. is a chance to score points against the White House for its support of the pro-Western Maidan protests that began in Ukraine a year ago and precipitated the biggest crisis in East-West relations since the Cold War. Sergei Naryshkin, speaker of Russia’s parliament and a close Russian ally, hinted on Tuesday that the rioting was America’s just desserts for “plunging the world into the chaos of its one-sided diktat,” the Itar-TASS news agency reported. Vladimir Vasiliev, a political scientist interviewed as an expert on the U.S. by the pro-Kremlin TV channel LifeNews, went one further. “It’s the combination of a number of factors: the Americans have overdone it with Ukraine recently, and Maidan has come to the U.S.,” he said. RIA Novosti, Russia’s Kremlin’s state newswire, referred to the Missouri National Guard with the same abbreviation it uses for Ukraine’s national guard, which has become a favorite Kremlin bugbear for the prominent far-right fighters in its ranks.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/19/ferguson-outsiders-protesters-riots-peaceful-unrest

For more than a week the people of Ferguson welcomed the outside activists who flocked here to show solidarity after police killed an unarmed teenager. By day 11, some residents were having second thoughts.

The intensified mayhem of recent nights, apparently initiated by a small, organised group of agitators, has raised a question mark over the strangers who join the nightly demonstrations.

“Who the hell are you people?” one woman shouted early on Tuesday morning as youths surged towards a phalanx of police, hurling insults, water bottles and, later, molotov cocktails.

With the national guard deployed to quell civil unrest in the US for the first time in over a decade, amid a night of gunshots, teargas, chaos and 31 arrests, it was an urgent question.

who arrived in Ferguson several days after the murder - and the peaceful protests by locals. It isn't "nutty," knowing what we know about Russia, including Clint Watts testimony about active measures before the Senate Intelligence Committee, to think that Russia was involved in funding some of the violent agitators.

Mensch distinguishes between peaceful BLM people and the outsiders who arrive at peaceful events to disrupt them. This is what Mensch said just today:

https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch


Louise Mensch Retweeted

Louise Mensch?
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Russian active measures smearing the peaceful ‪#blacklivesmatter movement in Ferguson and elsewhere

She's a nut.

Ya said today like a week later after the fact lol

The Ferguson protests started out peacefully, but they became violent when outsiders arrived. That was reported by numerous sources at the time.

And after Clinton Watts testimony, it seems quite possible that some of those outsiders were connected with Russia.

Of course, you've brought us the likes of ZeroHedge and ArmsControlWonk to spread some pretty stupid FUD.

You got pwned. Seems to be a regular occurrence.

of SHITE.

"Taibbi calls it “an exercise of conspiratorial mass hysteria.”

he was always lying about President Obama.

Taibbi is a serious writer and checks his facts.

I studied different companies that Bain Capital had invested in when Romney ran and found some oddities in the KB Toy Co where Bain restructured a company that didn't need it, having been just restructured.

That was Jan 14, 2012 https://www.democraticunderground.com/12511407

On August 29th he published a lengthy expose of Romney business practices. About halfway down he mirrors my main points. He even gets an executive to basically admit to it.

No one was really looking at KB at the time. The key points on that part of the story were so similar to mine I wonder if Taibbi reads DU for ideas for stories.

you posted, to draw progressive readers in.

sense of the word..

TROLL

a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content Internet trolls

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll

She is delivering the best reporting on what I find to be the most important political story in this entire country right now. I've always said, to hell with Greenwald. He is a sniveling, arrogant piece of shit with very questionable ideological values.

Matt Taibbi can be disappointing at times and I very much disagree with him when it comes to his never-ending cynicism with the top players in the Democratic party, but at the least, he seems to be personally like-able. Greenwald is obnoxious. I don't think I could be in the same room with him for long.

all those right wing talking points!

I never had any use for freaking taibbi.. speaking of "conspiracies".

The profiteering left.. assisting in screwing up the Planet.

Fucker. and then there's the greenwald gd troll

This mate sounds like the biggest stupid fuck, too

My money is on Rachel and the Facts.

I knew about Greenwald but thought Taibbi did some good work during the election. Since the election I have learned to loathe him.

I hope he's not correct, but in the end, if nothing happens - a real possibility in this GOP led investigation - he could be closer to reality than we are. The one thing Taibbi isn't afraid to do is say he's wrong when he's wrong so if there are perp walks, he'll be writing a mea culpa with no hesitation.

He is the reason I no longer subscribe to Rolling Stone.

realizing that Greenwald and his ilk are only happy when liberal democratic government fails.

I've seen many posts to that effect on DU over the past few years. Most of those were shouted down, and some were even juried into oblivion.

At least two who were banned for expressing any criticism of Bernie and supporters and any talk against Matt.

Not DU' s finest hours.

Still trying to prove she is a criminal stooge of Wall Street and that Bernie is God's second son.

They are the press. Seems pretty simple to me. Do we really want an echo chamber? We're better than that. If we can't handle criticism from the press, who are supposed to hold us accountable and make us better, God help us.

Are journalists only supposed to tell you what you want to hear? Maybe you want to live in a liberal news bubble, but I sure as hell don't. I read the Economist, Mother Jones and the Nation. I don't consider any particular news outlet the gospel truth because I engage in critical thinking, unlike many here.

Truth is on our side. Alternative facts are not.

He consistently tries to misdirect his readers to look away from the actions of a right wing oppressive Russian regime while pushing his opinions on a single political party. He's trying to supress important news through lies and manipulation. That's a propagandist/agent devoting himself to the cause of a dictator, not a journalist.

I don't like him anymore.

But i think he's mad that he missed the boat on the Trump/Russia connection

Mensch, on the other hand is a right-wing Thatcherite conservative.

I know who out of those three I absolutely don't trust, and it isn't Greenwald or Taibbi.

She also strongly supported Hillary over Trump in the general.

Greenwald is a Snowden/Assange enabler who is a libertarian trying to pose as a liberal.

...politicians ever to lead a country.

Glen Greenwald is a journalist who sometimes looses the plot.

Not sure what Ed Snowden has to do with this?