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Cyrano

(15,043 posts)
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 07:25 AM Apr 2017

"Mother of all Bombs" is a stupid fucking name

It sounds like the kind of hyperbole some two bit dictator would use.

It's the kind of phrase you're likely to hear coming from North Korea or ISIS.

It's also the kind of phrase you'd expect from a swaggering fool trying to sound like he's got the biggest penis in the world. You know, like something you'd expect to hear from Trump. But he didn't make it up.

I don't know who made it up. Probably some tone-deaf idiot in the Pentagon. But no matter who came up with it, those with vast power have no need to brag about it or make up dumb sounding names regarding it.

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"Mother of all Bombs" is a stupid fucking name (Original Post) Cyrano Apr 2017 OP
The same people who brought you "Shock and Awe" and "Operation Iraqi Liberation" ck4829 Apr 2017 #1
Technically it is Massive Ordinance Air Blast metalbot Apr 2017 #2
Thank you for clarifying M.O.A.B. TexasProgresive Apr 2017 #5
All the more unavoidable because for the 10 years previous to it being made... JHB Apr 2017 #18
The name actually came from the media Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #3
Yes, sensationalism sells. Countless fools bought Trump Cyrano Apr 2017 #6
well, I think some military folks gave it that nickname first Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #8
It IS a stupid fucking name. Juvenile bragging... Guilded Lilly Apr 2017 #4
My problem is this retrowire Apr 2017 #7
the worst part is it is how fucking expensive it is Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #9
I don't think that figure is right Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #15
but it was developed specially as part of a very expensive program Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #17
I think your quoting the wrong bomb Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #20
what's the MOP? Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #21
Yep the Guardian confused the two Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #22
ok, thanks Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #23
That is because it was made up by a two bit dictator. AngryAmish Apr 2017 #10
I'm guessing that the use of this weapon was a message to NK TexasProgresive Apr 2017 #11
I'm guessing it's a ripped off moniker, from Saddam Hussein's brag ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2017 #12
Didn't work out too well for him Cyrano Apr 2017 #13
HUH! jimjc Apr 2017 #14
Mother of All Bombs sounds as such meow2u3 Apr 2017 #16
Whatever, it's TNT equivalent is less than 1/1000 of the A-bomb dropped on Hiroshima LeftInTX Apr 2017 #19

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
2. Technically it is Massive Ordinance Air Blast
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 07:33 AM
Apr 2017

The "mother of all bombs" is just the unavoidable nickname.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
18. All the more unavoidable because for the 10 years previous to it being made...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 11:00 AM
Apr 2017

...M.O.A.B. was in use here and there as an abbreviation for Saddam Hussein's hyperbolic boast "Mother Of All Battles".

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
3. The name actually came from the media
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 07:47 AM
Apr 2017

as mentioned above the actual name is Massive Ordnance Air Burst.

But sensationalism sells, so how many news reports have you seen that used the actual name and how many have you seen using the nickname the originated in the media anyway?

Cyrano

(15,043 posts)
6. Yes, sensationalism sells. Countless fools bought Trump
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 07:51 AM
Apr 2017

Nonetheless, it's the kind of idiotic phrase that seems to be chosen by someone who has a desperate need to feel like "A Real Man".

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
4. It IS a stupid fucking name. Juvenile bragging...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 07:48 AM
Apr 2017

rights for men and their warmongering.

It is a weapon of mass distruction.
(Yeah yeah war is hell.)

War is DEATH.

Keep "Mother" out of it.
And just why are these so GD expensive?
Men making obscene profit from obliterating things.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
7. My problem is this
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 07:53 AM
Apr 2017

Since it's technology, something will definitely come along that overshadows it someday and its title will be stupider.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
15. I don't think that figure is right
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 08:54 AM
Apr 2017

NY Times puts it at $170,000.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/04/14/us/politics/ap-us-mother-of-all-bombs.html

That seems more likely. It isn't a missile or rocket so it's not nearly as expensive as those are.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
17. but it was developed specially as part of a very expensive program
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:50 AM
Apr 2017

the program was like $314 million, and if you divide the number of bombs they made into that, it gives like $14 million a bomb.

The larger point is military shit and wars are ridiculously expensive and no one in power ever seems to care about that.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
20. I think your quoting the wrong bomb
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 12:07 PM
Apr 2017

Those figures from every source I see are for the MOP, not the MOAB.

The MOP did end up at $14 million per example. I think some of the first ones actually used leftover battleship gun barrels to make the case from.

But that's not the same system and I think a lot of media sources are confusing the two.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
22. Yep the Guardian confused the two
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 12:37 PM
Apr 2017

MOP is Massive Ordnance Penetraor , the "bunker buster".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_Ordnance_Penetrator

It seems the media is mixing the two up, out of either incompetence or intentionally for more sensational coverage.

This 2011 LA Times article quotes the same costs exactly for the MOP that media sources are now attributing to the MOAB.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/16/business/la-fi-bunker-buster-bomb-20111117

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
10. That is because it was made up by a two bit dictator.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 08:00 AM
Apr 2017

Before the 91 Gulf War Saddam Hussein, the then leader of Iraq, warned that the allied troops against him would be destroyed in "The mother of all battles".

That war went poorly for Mr. Hussein.

Then the name was tweaked in the media for this thing.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
11. I'm guessing that the use of this weapon was a message to NK
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 08:12 AM
Apr 2017

The M.O.A.B. and the M.O.P* might be effective in destroying the hardened artillery positions that are aimed across the DMZ at Seoul. To deploy these weapons against NK would be very risky. But one never knows with the buffoon in chief. Now some in military leadership are probably itching to try out their toys.

The MOAB is not a penetrator weapon and is primarily intended for soft to medium surface targets covering extended areas and targets in a contained environment such as a deep canyon or within a cave system.[15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast


*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_Ordnance_Penetrator

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,354 posts)
12. I'm guessing it's a ripped off moniker, from Saddam Hussein's brag ...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 08:17 AM
Apr 2017

... about "The Mother of all Battles" which would finally establish his dominance of the region.

 

jimjc

(69 posts)
14. HUH!
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 08:26 AM
Apr 2017

Ya the Mother of all.........so what do they call the one they have that's 50% bigger "This is THE mother fucker"

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
16. Mother of All Bombs sounds as such
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:40 AM
Apr 2017

The explosive diarrhea I get when I eat salmonella-tainted chicken--stink and all!

LeftInTX

(25,406 posts)
19. Whatever, it's TNT equivalent is less than 1/1000 of the A-bomb dropped on Hiroshima
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 11:31 AM
Apr 2017

MOAB Blast yield: 11 tons TNT
Little Boy Blast yield: 15 kilotons of TNT

It is a bunch of bragging and I assume this was the best way to blast into the rocks without directly going into the caves themselves.

Just another tool......

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