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pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:01 PM Apr 2017

6 days before Jason Chaffetz's surprise announcement, Louise Mensch tweeted:

Louise Mensch?Verified account @LouiseMensch

Sources say there is kompromat on @jasoninthehouse; that this is why he turned and that @fbi know it. #traitorinthehouse


April 13

https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch



Interesting . . .

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6 days before Jason Chaffetz's surprise announcement, Louise Mensch tweeted: (Original Post) pnwmom Apr 2017 OP
check oldtime dfl_er Apr 2017 #1
What did Scott Dworkin tweet and when did he tweet it? L. Coyote Apr 2017 #36
When she's right, man has she been right. aquamarina Apr 2017 #2
He did not resign. He's simply not running for re-election. LonePirate Apr 2017 #3
You're right, technically. But he's checked out. And I doubt he lasts the term. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #6
Agreed iluvtennis Apr 2017 #21
It also means the Oversight Commitee rooms will be dark too. TeamPooka Apr 2017 #23
Yeah, as soon as that ideal private sector job opens up, Ilsa Apr 2017 #27
re: "He did not resign. He's simply not running for re-election." - So much for that... thesquanderer Apr 2017 #31
This was the 1st thing I thought of today dmr Apr 2017 #4
My 2 ideas for "turned" Ezior Apr 2017 #8
Thanks, those were my 2 thoughts, too. dmr Apr 2017 #25
Sounds like the first, otherwise there would be no need to say "the FBI knows it". randome Apr 2017 #37
Anyone know how to get unblocked by Mensch? OliverQ Apr 2017 #5
If you replied to her and don't have 1,000+ followers and a profile pic, you get blocked. MelissaB Apr 2017 #7
She's being spammed by so many trolls she's using some blocking program to keep them out pnwmom Apr 2017 #11
You Can Always Just Do a Twitter Search to Keep Up Stallion Apr 2017 #13
You can't. I've tried. Try creating another Twitter handle to read her again. SticksnStones Apr 2017 #15
I can read her twitter feed on my laptop which isn't connected to my Twitter account... just KittyWampus Apr 2017 #18
Imagine my shock at the news that he won't be seeking reelection, and now there's a reason. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2017 #9
Funny thing, Wellstone ruled Apr 2017 #10
Chaffetz can continue his Benghazi investigation from the comfort of his prison cell Mr. Ected Apr 2017 #12
Lock-him-up. Yeah! Lock-him-up!!! nt NCjack Apr 2017 #17
Couldn't happen to a nastier guy. Now, if Trey Gowdy Alice11111 Apr 2017 #26
Curious.. mzteaze Apr 2017 #14
He is just disappointed that the list he had for HRC investigations has to be torn up. nikibatts Apr 2017 #16
The Hill suggests he might be prepping a 2020 presidential run SticksnStones Apr 2017 #19
I saw that, too. calimary Apr 2017 #20
I just Googled her 2 min ago BigmanPigman Apr 2017 #22
Chavffetz is heavily vested in an illegal pyramid scheme called nu skin Thekaspervote Apr 2017 #24
And Amway, another pyramid scheme, does a lot of business in Russia. Guess who owns Amway? pnwmom Apr 2017 #29
Could be mechanism for money laundering Mensch alleges is main kompromat. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #33
This is grand.. I hated that pawn for putin.. Cha Apr 2017 #28
Does she? Looks to me like she just connects the odd, Hortensis Apr 2017 #30
She's well connected to Intell Community. She took their side on an issue & they are loyal now. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #34
Okay. But why do none of the other, very well regarded, Hortensis Apr 2017 #35
She's at the top of Vanity Fair's list. Nance is #2 but he doesn't have much time for her. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #38
And I like and respect Vanity Fair's work in general. Hortensis Apr 2017 #39
She was first with the FISA warrant info, in July 2016 and updated. First with Chaffetz. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #41
Not only that but people who are doing these leaks are doing it in a planned and coordinated manner grantcart Apr 2017 #40
The MSM doesn't seem to like her, but... worstexever Apr 2017 #43
You might find this interesting Cha Chevy Apr 2017 #44
kick again triron Apr 2017 #32
One thing to keep in mind about Louise Mensch she has written many fiction Kathy M Apr 2017 #42
And that is why she is a good writer. HOWEVER, it is not why she was able to scoop the BBC, pnwmom Apr 2017 #45

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
1. check
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:07 PM
Apr 2017

She's got amazing sources. Not 100% but amazing most of the time. And she knows how to put things together so they add up.

LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
3. He did not resign. He's simply not running for re-election.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:12 PM
Apr 2017

Resign implies he has left Congress or soon will. That is not the case as he will still be there until January 2019.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
27. Yeah, as soon as that ideal private sector job opens up,
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 03:50 AM
Apr 2017

he'll resign to "spend more time with his family."

dmr

(28,349 posts)
4. This was the 1st thing I thought of today
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:28 PM
Apr 2017

when I heard the news.

I try to keep up, but I'm not doing a very good job because I still don't understand what she meant about his "turning". I have an idea, or two, but am not sure.

If you know, or suspect, would you please explain, or direct me with a link.

On another thought, I imagine Jason's been depressed over not being able to pursue his "several years" worth of evidence against a President Hillary Clinton.

You know, all that hard work of preparation down the drain. Sorta ruined his life's course in his dogged pursuit of "justice". Poor guy. Of course, just like Issa, partisan politics, and power had nothing to do with any of this.

Ezior

(505 posts)
8. My 2 ideas for "turned"
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:35 PM
Apr 2017

- Since she uses the term "kompromat", this might refer to Russia blackmailing him to act in the interests of Russia (Russia turned him)
- Or maybe she's using "kompromat" in a broader sense and the FBI has something on him, so now he's helping with the investigation against Trump (the FBI turned him)?

Which one is it?

dmr

(28,349 posts)
25. Thanks, those were my 2 thoughts, too.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 01:56 AM
Apr 2017

I sure would like to know. May be even both: the Russians, then the FBI caught wind of it.


I bet there will be plenty of Republicans who will rue the day they put their marbles in Trump's basket. Nunes, Jason, McConnell, Ryan, etc.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
37. Sounds like the first, otherwise there would be no need to say "the FBI knows it".
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 03:47 PM
Apr 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
5. Anyone know how to get unblocked by Mensch?
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:29 PM
Apr 2017

No clue why I randomly got blocked, but I can't see her twitter anymore.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
7. If you replied to her and don't have 1,000+ followers and a profile pic, you get blocked.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:33 PM
Apr 2017

I did the same thing because I didn't know. If you know someone that she knows that can request to have you unblocked.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
11. She's being spammed by so many trolls she's using some blocking program to keep them out
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:46 PM
Apr 2017

which unfortunately also keeps out many non-trolls.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
13. You Can Always Just Do a Twitter Search to Keep Up
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:03 PM
Apr 2017

in fact she's the first search result for Louise right now

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
18. I can read her twitter feed on my laptop which isn't connected to my Twitter account... just
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:54 PM
Apr 2017

google her name and click on the link on a device that isn't connected to Twitter.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. Funny thing,
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:44 PM
Apr 2017

Chaffetz's home town Rag only post that he is not seeking reelection. Same lousy bit of reporting when Chaffetz agreed to a Court settlement in his use of Campaign Funds for personal use.

But,what does one expect when your Newspaper of Record in Utah is run by the kiss asses of the GOP.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
12. Chaffetz can continue his Benghazi investigation from the comfort of his prison cell
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:51 PM
Apr 2017

He'll be revealed as a traitor to our nation and complicit with a bunch of other GOP slime in their collusion with Russia to compromise our election.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
26. Couldn't happen to a nastier guy. Now, if Trey Gowdy
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 03:46 AM
Apr 2017

could follow his friend...town halls. Anyone that obsessed, filled with bile, and so angry he can hardly speak at times, about going after Hillary, with all those multiple investigations has to be trying to obscure something.

Maybe they can be bffs in a cell.

mzteaze

(448 posts)
14. Curious..
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:11 PM
Apr 2017

I had just posted yesterday that his Dem challenger was outpacing him in the donations. So this came out of the blue. Makes me wonder what's coming out in the next few weeks.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
19. The Hill suggests he might be prepping a 2020 presidential run
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:58 PM
Apr 2017

I think it's a diversion...a way he can wink wink no it's not about corruption or anything...




BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
22. I just Googled her 2 min ago
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:38 PM
Apr 2017

and I do not understand her messages. I do not have twitter and do not know acronyms to do her suggestion "@FBI" . What did she say?

Thekaspervote

(32,794 posts)
24. Chavffetz is heavily vested in an illegal pyramid scheme called nu skin
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:03 PM
Apr 2017

It was also his biggest campaign donor. They were China based originally, others say Russia. The front says they were based in Provo, some digging proves otherwise. Nu skin purchased the rights to a product called ethocyn a few years back that was first developed in Russia

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
29. And Amway, another pyramid scheme, does a lot of business in Russia. Guess who owns Amway?
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 03:56 AM
Apr 2017

The DeVos family, the major GOP donors -- including Betsy, now Education Secretary.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028951582

Cha

(297,692 posts)
28. This is grand.. I hated that pawn for putin..
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 03:53 AM
Apr 2017

How does she know these things?

Thank you, pnwmom!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Does she? Looks to me like she just connects the odd,
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 05:03 AM
Apr 2017

"what's that about?" dots that millions are looking at to others, some we can see, some we can't, and reports the picture as knowledge, or sometimes like now just as insinuations. She's working as a journalist for a minor Murdoch publication, so she's presumably closer to events than most, but her main technique to me seems to be just the classic timing hokum: posting vague insinuations of knowledge out ahead of developing events.

If Mensch has real answers, why are her revelations never followed 2-4 days later by the usual pieces by other investigative journalists? Why aren't they corroborating and build on her revelations through their own information sources? That's the usual timing. And note that no one quotes her.

As for Chaffetz, who hasn't been waiting to find out what we don't know yet about his hidden activities? He's an extremely ambitious and ruthless sleaze who keeps screwing up, his biggest almost certainly by eagerly entangling himself with the Russiagate crowd. And now he's suddenly abandoning his national aspirations. At this point we're all Menschs, minus the claims.

Btw, the right never seems to run out of these crooked, defective "stars" who soar and then self destruct. How is it their voters never get tired of it?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. Okay. But why do none of the other, very well regarded,
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 03:39 PM
Apr 2017

and very well connected people investigating the same things quote her? Again, all she would have to do would be to drop a new name, fact, document and they'd be on it like a swarm of ants tearing apart a scrap of melon, bringing a wealth of contacts that dwarf hers to developing the story.

But nothing.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,044 posts)
38. She's at the top of Vanity Fair's list. Nance is #2 but he doesn't have much time for her.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 04:03 PM
Apr 2017

5 Essential Twitter Feeds for Keeping Up with Trump and Russia
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/02/twitter-feeds-for-keeping-up-with-trump-and-russia
Louise Mensch. Former Tory MP and whizbang author, Mensch, the subject of a recent Guardian profile, moved to New York in 2012 and we are the better for it. Relentless, dauntless, irreverent, and locked-in-on-target, her open letter “Dear Mr. Putin, Let’s Play Chess” is a must-read primer and prescient as hell. Her Twitter feed is like Sherlock Holmes on jet-boots and infused with James Bond elan; also humor, which always helps.





Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. And I like and respect Vanity Fair's work in general.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 04:17 PM
Apr 2017

I'll accept that she's working hard at passing along the info of the day. But notice, they do not claim she provides NEW information, which is what people on this thread have been assuming and what she pretends to.

Like I said...what did I say? That thing about using timing to seem to have special information?

This VF list is also ignoring her nutty side, temporarily. She's not called a conspiracy pusher by those who reject her as a colleague for nothing.

Soak in her offerings at your own peril, never forgetting what happened to the right.


Bernardo de La Paz

(49,044 posts)
41. She was first with the FISA warrant info, in July 2016 and updated. First with Chaffetz.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 04:21 PM
Apr 2017

I think she was first with Carter Page and first with the Alfa bank connections, but I'm not sure.

Yes, she does have a nutty side but it doesn't seem to creep into her reports when she uses terms like "confirmed" even though she won't / can't name multiple sources.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
40. Not only that but people who are doing these leaks are doing it in a planned and coordinated manner
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 04:20 PM
Apr 2017

They don't just brief one person they leak it to two or three at the same time so that the issue has enough credibility to be widely reported.

Nance is right.

worstexever

(265 posts)
43. The MSM doesn't seem to like her, but...
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 05:28 PM
Apr 2017

I've seen Keith Olbermann quote her and my favorite Wonkette speaks of her with a "grain of salt." She was a panelist on Bill Maher's show recently, too.

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
42. One thing to keep in mind about Louise Mensch she has written many fiction
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 04:41 PM
Apr 2017

novels she has used mench , the others are under Louise Bagshawe. Since Vanity Fair has been mentioned ......

" Mensch had a scoop—or did she? To my mind, we still do not really know. She reported that she had “two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community,” and that these sources gave her the story because of her fearless condemnation of Edward Snowden, the N.S.A. contractor, who revealed the massive and unregulated surveillance programs by British and American governments, which of course was mostly broken by The Guardian.

But “links with counter-intelligence community” is not the same as the counter-intelligence community itself. Are we talking intermediaries here? What do “links” mean in this context, anyway? You could conceivably describe me as a link to the counter-intelligence community since I have known quite a few intelligence officers over the years. But this does not make me an authority, or provide any guarantee that I know what I’m talking about, or telling the truth. A link, as I understand it, is a go-between, a channel—and not necessarily someone who has firsthand experience to recount. "

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/louise-mensch-donald-trump-politics

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
45. And that is why she is a good writer. HOWEVER, it is not why she was able to scoop the BBC,
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 06:45 PM
Apr 2017

the Guardian, McClatchy, and very other American media source when she reported the correct details on the Alfa bank FISA warrant in November.

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