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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Alt Right has a new theory on Trump-Putin collusion. Hold your hats on.
They are saying Trump can't possibly in cahoots with Putin because Putin is punking him by buzzing Alaska with fighter jets and putting Syrian fighter jets under their military umbrella. This is supposed to undermine our assertion they are colluding.
The more likely explanation is Putin has found himself a new toy.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)he's been used by Putin. The Russians interfered with the election for two reasons: (1) to sow FUD and confusion so as to undermine faith in the process, and (2) to be sure Hillary, whom they viewed as an enemy, lost, and therefore Trump, whom they believed they could use, would win. The "cahoots" part of it was whatever collusion Trump and/or his associates did to help them fiddle the election, encouraged by assurances that Trump would lift Obama's sanctions. Trump's usefulness arises from his dodgy financial deals with Russian oligarchs, which could prove to involve money-laundering and tax evasion. But all the cahooting fell apart when information about the hack became public. Trump might no longer be useful to Putin except to the extent that he can manipulate him behind the scenes. I do think Putin is now punking Trump in a sense; but that's not proof at all that there is or was no collusion.
Qutzupalotl
(14,331 posts)The Rosneft deal will make them all wildly rich.
nocalflea
(1,387 posts)I haven't seen one.
oops
Found one
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028949811
duncang
(1,907 posts)Dipshit donnie didn't know giving the U.S. over to russia was that complicated and putin is pissed he's not following through on his promises.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)Once the hack was exposed Trump's utility to Russia was diminished.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)That theory will swirl down the toilet when the indictments get handed down.
You can spin, fake the news, lie, propagandize and brainwash all you want.
Provable evidence is the antidote to media bullshit.
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)I was able to read the Steele Dossier last night, the 35 page one with the mis-spellings and such.
It stated more than once that as the response from the press and the public was way beyond what they (the russians) expected that they stopped any further efforts to "help" twitlers ( love that ) party and deny everything, say nothing, do nothing more.
From what I understood reading the dossier was that putin was mad at the individual that was in charge of the program for going too far with it and opening up more scrutiny than they wanted.
Everything I've read in the last couple of weeks is nearly comparable to a connect the dots puzzle with answers available for all to see if you spend the time looking.
All you need is a pencil and some time.
It's become blatantly obvious that the pieces are falling into place more and more and the Steele Dossier may be the most important document of our time considering where it's taking us.
That man may just be worthy of our eternal gratitude.