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kpete

(72,018 posts)
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:34 PM Apr 2017

CBS News has learned a manhunt is under way for a traitor inside the CIA who gave thousands of docs

WASHINGTON -- CBS News has learned that a manhunt is underway for a traitor inside the Central Intelligence Agency.

The CIA and FBI are conducting a joint investigation into one of the worst security breaches in CIA history, which exposed thousands of top-secret documents that described CIA tools used to penetrate smartphones, smart televisions and computer systems.


Sources familiar with the investigation say it is looking for an insider -- either a CIA employee or contractor -- who had physical access to the material. The agency has not said publicly when the material was taken or how it was stolen.



http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cia-fbi-on-manhunt-for-leaker-who-gave-top-secret-documents-to-wikileaks/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=36682071

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CBS News has learned a manhunt is under way for a traitor inside the CIA who gave thousands of docs (Original Post) kpete Apr 2017 OP
I SAID this! And no one believed it could be the case. Maraya1969 Apr 2017 #1
Another Edward Snowden... TheDebbieDee Apr 2017 #17
+1,000,000,000 times worse. lark Apr 2017 #33
This web of conspirators is vast. JNelson6563 Apr 2017 #2
+1000 byronius Apr 2017 #13
Kick Hekate Apr 2017 #3
Almost had to be a mole... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #4
The case surrounding the leaks/collusion looks to be far reaching, and thorough. denbot Apr 2017 #5
I know this sounds naive--but I wish we had NO secrets. panader0 Apr 2017 #6
The problem is that spying does work, saves lives, and prevents wars. Yavin4 Apr 2017 #10
"No profit. Just values." Dem2theMax Apr 2017 #12
Not naive at all. You're absolutely correct. But -- sociopaths. Psychopaths. byronius Apr 2017 #14
Himself and his government, yes. Volaris Apr 2017 #35
is this what is taking so long? mopinko Apr 2017 #7
I heard about this a couple of weeks ago. kentuck Apr 2017 #8
What is even worse? SCVDem Apr 2017 #9
No, it's not. SomethingNew Apr 2017 #28
hogwash! tomp Apr 2017 #30
Fair enough. SomethingNew Apr 2017 #34
you're still over-generalizing... tomp Apr 2017 #36
Un-fkn-believeable. I had to go through extreme vetting to get a Top Secret clearance and an... iluvtennis Apr 2017 #11
This is probably where Cernovich got his blackmail information. Initech Apr 2017 #15
Are we talking traitors or whistle blowers? ZX86 Apr 2017 #16
I don't think they were traitors. The99thTimeLord Apr 2017 #18
Well if you're a Timelord ZX86 Apr 2017 #19
Allons-y!! The99thTimeLord Apr 2017 #20
Traitors- read the article Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #21
I did. ZX86 Apr 2017 #25
These people aren't whistle-blowers. They're turning over American intellectual property pnwmom Apr 2017 #22
Wikileaks is a foreign adversary? ZX86 Apr 2017 #24
Yes. It has been established that Wikileaks is a vehicle for Russian propaganda. pnwmom Apr 2017 #26
All you ever heard from the Christian Right and the secular rightwingers is that the liberals are Lint Head Apr 2017 #23
I hope the traitor is found MontanaMama Apr 2017 #27
Didn't trump give a tour of the CIA shortly after being inaugurated? William769 Apr 2017 #29
I think you're all crazy if you think you know what's going on. tomp Apr 2017 #31
Don't focus on the what, focus on the why bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #32
No Way Out, Costner as a Russian spy........... mrmpa Apr 2017 #37
It seems to me that we'd all be better off if the intel community was fully staffed with Snarkoleptic Apr 2017 #38

Maraya1969

(22,500 posts)
1. I SAID this! And no one believed it could be the case.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:56 PM
Apr 2017

I said that we had to have leakers in order for these "Hacks" to have happened.

Someone gives up information and It comes out as a hack on Wikileaks.

Like Laundering propaganda

denbot

(9,901 posts)
5. The case surrounding the leaks/collusion looks to be far reaching, and thorough.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:06 PM
Apr 2017

It is almost enough to give one hope..

panader0

(25,816 posts)
6. I know this sounds naive--but I wish we had NO secrets.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:15 PM
Apr 2017

The policy of the US should be the same as the Constitution.
We believe in democracy. We will help other nations to achieve that goal.' We believe
in humanity. We will help other nations to be safe. Period. No profit. Just values.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
10. The problem is that spying does work, saves lives, and prevents wars.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:50 PM
Apr 2017

Spying gets us information that, if used properly, can prevent wars.

Dem2theMax

(9,654 posts)
12. "No profit. Just values."
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:02 PM
Apr 2017

That needs to be the battle cry of the Democratic party. No profit. Just values.
The polar opposite of the repukes.

byronius

(7,401 posts)
14. Not naive at all. You're absolutely correct. But -- sociopaths. Psychopaths.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:22 PM
Apr 2017

Lot of 'em. All over. Chopping at the roots of all that is good and green.

All those secrets are part of policy precisely because people started chopping at our roots, primarily Nazis and Russians.

The Russians. Now they are the Biggest Secret. Well, used to be.

Vladimir has earned his nation a world of well-deserved hurt.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
35. Himself and his government, yes.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 06:53 PM
Apr 2017

Politically, I don't think any of us (at least here) have any particular quarrel with the Russian People, who most certainly deserve better than the self-appointed oligarch who runs their government.

mopinko

(70,225 posts)
7. is this what is taking so long?
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:15 PM
Apr 2017

cia wanted to catch the mole before they blew the whistle.

makes sense.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
8. I heard about this a couple of weeks ago.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:18 PM
Apr 2017

The thought was that it was probably a contractor with the US Government.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
9. What is even worse?
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:45 PM
Apr 2017

Dump cheering them on.

This is a factual part of history and is worse than the Rosenbergs selling nuclear secrets to the Soviets!

This is a firing squad offense. Sometimes death is the answer.

SomethingNew

(279 posts)
28. No, it's not.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 03:00 AM
Apr 2017

Supporting the death penalty is an anti-liberal/progressive/Democratic position if there ever was one.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
30. hogwash!
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 05:10 PM
Apr 2017

I love it when people come along and unilaterally decide on necessary credentials to be liberal, progressive or democratic.

you don' get to decide.

SomethingNew

(279 posts)
34. Fair enough.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 06:21 PM
Apr 2017

I'll amend my earlier position:

Being against the death penalty is a prerequisite for being a decent human being.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
36. you're still over-generalizing...
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 07:12 PM
Apr 2017

...but you're entitled to your opinion, as long as you recognize it as such.

iluvtennis

(19,874 posts)
11. Un-fkn-believeable. I had to go through extreme vetting to get a Top Secret clearance and an...
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:01 PM
Apr 2017

operative gets into the CIA. Wow, just wow. So many ppl can be compromised - where did our integrity and pride go.

Sad, US Air Force veteran

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
16. Are we talking traitors or whistle blowers?
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:41 PM
Apr 2017

A traitor is someone who sells secret information to or works for an enemy. A whistle blower exposes secrets. Was Serpico a traitor? Was Daniel Ellsberg a traitor?

 

The99thTimeLord

(88 posts)
18. I don't think they were traitors.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:01 PM
Apr 2017

...but I'm just trying to get to 10 posts so I can start a thread and introduce myself. So there's that.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
22. These people aren't whistle-blowers. They're turning over American intellectual property
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:42 PM
Apr 2017

to foreign adversaries.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
26. Yes. It has been established that Wikileaks is a vehicle for Russian propaganda.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 12:33 AM
Apr 2017

And if you don't believe our intelligence agencies (and European agencies) about that, then think: when have you EVER heard of Wikileaks posting documents harmful to Russia?

Even Mike Pompeo, who used to applaud Wikileaks, has changed his opinion since being educated in his new position heading the CIA.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/us/politics/mike-pompeo-cia-wikileaks.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — In his first speech as director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Mike Pompeo, the former Republican congressman who once applauded disclosures by WikiLeaks, attacked the group on Thursday as a stateless hostile intelligence unit eager to do the bidding of Russia and other American adversaries.

“WikiLeaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service,” Mr. Pompeo said. To support his assessment, he cited how the group had encouraged followers to join the C.I.A. and steal secrets, and how “it overwhelmingly focuses on the United States while seeking support from antidemocratic countries.”

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
23. All you ever heard from the Christian Right and the secular rightwingers is that the liberals are
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:42 PM
Apr 2017

conspiring to create a One World Government. Now we know it was a ruse. A projection. The right wingers are the ones wanting a One World Right Wing Government. They always talk about how many "Christians" were being murdered by terrorists not mentioning that the majority were of other faiths. Their vision is to partner with Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, on and on and on to compromise oil and any other types of the world economies they could use to keep the poor and non educated down and controlled. How better to do that through propaganda and the controlling mechanism of Religion and the fear of death and the afterlife that comes with it. Hillary was right about the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Not as it relates to just taking the Clintons down but to take down and marginalize the left as a threat to the world.

The massive military power of the US is all they need to use as a lever to do this.

There are conspiracies and the Trump criminals have proven it is.

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
27. I hope the traitor is found
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 12:47 AM
Apr 2017

and hung out to dry. However, I am worried that the hooplah surrounding this news will be a shiny distraction while the other rats try to jump ship.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
31. I think you're all crazy if you think you know what's going on.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 05:15 PM
Apr 2017

there's really no way to know for sure, given the Byzantine and corrupt character of our govt and especially intelligence agencies. we are generally misled at every turn.

bucolic_frolic

(43,295 posts)
32. Don't focus on the what, focus on the why
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 05:46 PM
Apr 2017

motive is everything. enlisting foreign help for political gain would be quite a find.

We may never know, because we may not want to admit it, or inform the public.

It's a spook's game, after all.

Snarkoleptic

(6,002 posts)
38. It seems to me that we'd all be better off if the intel community was fully staffed with
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 07:42 PM
Apr 2017

career public servants, rather than having contractors involved.
The fact that such sensitive info is entrusted to contractors, seems like an ill-advised extension of the lunatic desire to privatize everything.
Thinking of you, Ed Snowden.....

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