Trump is still in office and nobody associated with him has gone to jail.

in the election, not to mention these new scandals like "InaugurationMoneyLaundering-gate" and "LuxuryCondoSalesGate". Trump the robber baron could have cleaned out the Capitol and the country by then and resigned because "who knew governing could be this complicated". He's already more than 70 years old. If the porker-in-chief has a stroke a couple of years from now, before ever having been prosecuted for any of his shenanigans, we could be responsible for his corrupt ass round the clock care and protection for the rest of his life.

The investigations started a long time ago, why did the FBI and CIA allowed Trump and his gang to take office? Why do they still allow them to make/destroy policy?

Are they getting away with it? Yes, so far they are, destruction is easier to achieve than building...the towers came down in one day, it took years to build them. It has taken years to pass laws that benefit the citizens of this country, it takes Trump, without reading or understanding, a few seconds to sign-off on repealing good work that other presidents implemented.

It is dangerous to take the pom-poms out before we see actual action from the FBI and CIA against these criminal, and as far as I can tell, its all a looong investigation without results.

And the question that must continuously be asked is "Why did James Comey" did what he did eleven days before the election? Why did he want to benefit Trump? Do we have a bigger problem than Trump?

I can't think of a realistic scenario in which HRC is ushered in as our genuine 45th President.

I totally concur that the international intelligence community has stepped up to allow the American people an opportunity to gain knowledge of the GOP/Trump/Russia connection. They have unleashed the Rachel Maddows of the world (there aren't enough of them, btw) to peel back the layers of obstruction and present the case for treason, drip by drip, to those of us willing to listen.

My fear is that each moment of revelation is countered by further obstruction by the Republican Congress, the Trump administration, and the mainstream media. Look at how CNN is trying to spin this today, as if Carter Page was the only conduit to Russia and poor Carter was probably unaware and definitely Trump was out of the loop. They, too, appear to have been conscripted into the cover-up apparatus.

Soooo....will this continue to gain traction, or will the media quash this and will the Republican majority bury it?

If it's the latter and not the former, I can't live here anymore. I can't be in a place where democracy is on the menu but it's never served to the customer when the corrupt manager is on duty.

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because they will try to have a fall guy...

They will try every trick in the book.

I just think it's crumbling.

there is too much unaccounted for money floating around and at stake in this whole process. I'm thinking greed will win and we're in the period now where people are getting bought off to sweep this whole thing under the rug. With all the coincidences cropping up of collusion and treason - one would have thought that by now this would have been dealt with and Trump and his administration would be out. However, everyday it looks like other forces are at work to quash this talk of collusion and I fear that many of those pushing the meme are being offered money and lots of it - to assure that nothing will ever come of it.

Greed is taking over. They got theirs and there are people now thinking that if they push hard enough - maybe I'll get mine and then I'll back off.

Yes - I fear that nothing will ever come of this because - one by one - money is being offered in exchange for calling the dogs off.

There is no 'rule of law' anymore. It's 'rule of money'. What irks me the most is how Trump and the Repugs - thumb their noses as laws and go on and break laws and we let them get away with it.

If it was a Dem President and the Dems being accused of the same thing - the other side would be relentless in putting them in jail and deposing them.

So as this scenario plays out - and as people are being bought out - they have theirs now and they can back off and perhaps maybe we'll be given a scapegoat that will take the fall - but Trump and the Repugs will continue to go on and on and take advantage of the situation and - drip by drip - erode our government and way of life.

We'll be the saps that will accept what they tell us and continue to be taken advantage of to pay for their greedy way of life.

As you can see - I'm very jaded today. I think we're stuck will Trump and the Repugs. They will continue to break laws; do their own thing and cheat their way to a continued existence.

From election day - when they took the presidency, the House and the Senate - I said we were witnessing a coup. The coup took hold and is on-going and in my opinion will continue until they bleed every last dollar out of us and every last ounce of energy we have to fight this - until we give up.

Ask yourself - if greed took hold of you and you were paid off and had no worries - would you even concern yourself with what is going on - or would you try to live out your life as if you didn't care.

Look around you. Read some of the ridiculous things that Repug's are saying and getting away with every day.

Today I read where some Repug was saying that retirement was not biblical. That we should work till we die.

I also understand that the skeleton of the Repug healthcare bill that is still floating around is even worse for us now than it was the first time.

Corporations and the 1%'ers are on beam to become even richer than they were and are - and all at our expense.

No - Trump and his kind will not go down. We are stuck with them for more than the foreseeable future. They will continue to find ways to steal elections and remain in power and we are powerless to stop them.

So we can continue to delude ourselves here and preach to the choir as to how they will be stopped. We will have our momentary happy moments where we think they are being found out and they will be stopped. But it won't happen folks. Remember when we thought BushCo and Rove were going to be frog marched to jail in orange suits. It didn't happen.

Instead we got traded off to an orange man - that is worse than them

quashed that.

I think the Steele dossier is true. I think Ivanka hasn't taken an official job at the White House because she doesn't want to abide by the parameters of the law.

Before I thought they were just going to throw a nugget out there here and there to get our attention away from whatever horrid thing they wanted to impose...

That's when Germany and other allies stepped in and started confirming more of this. I think Chaffetz (R-Benghazi) is in some DEEP shit.

And the money, money, money they've been laundering is coming out...Russian money

I say that every day.

Who is going to put her in charge??

"We, the people?"

And how are "we" going to accomplish this?

Truth indeed.

into the Republican Party does it extend. The situation may be more fluid than we realize and the Republican Party may be more brittle than we know.

At this point in President Nixon's second term, many Democrats were demoralized. Nixon/Agnew had scored an incredible second term victory over McGovern. A true landslide.

I don't know of anyone in April, 1973. who predicted that Agnew and Nixon would be forced to resign.

That winning ticket began to unravel, however, options opened up.

We are, of course, in a different situation at a different time in history. However, if the unraveling begins options will open up.

That we consistently demand justice, is important.Ohers will be busy trying close off our options-we don't need to do that job for them

But no matter how much we want it to be, HRC will not be president. Not unless she runs in 2020, and wins.

Because it is crazy.
That would actually be a coup that would overthrow our government while ignoring the Constitution and all applicable law.

People from the other side just love reading stuff like this here.

McConnell and Ryan also knew they could rely on the help to win and so they plotted to stop Garland's nomination.

Guilty all over.

They are all plotters and traitors.

Expect no invesigation that gets to those creeps.

Unless we persist and resist.

coordinated cabal.

This is a fucking coup, plain and simple.

And we are all going to have to be ok with it. That ship has sailed.

There is already enough 'known' scandals to bring Trump down. The $100 million real estate sale (Florida mansion) to the Russian 'fertilizer king' in and of itself, would be enough to bring him down. The fact that his Secretary of Commerce was Vice President at the Bank of Cypress known for Russian money laundering where the money passed through is enough to bring him down.

The only reason he hasn't been brought down is because this has to run its course. He had to be given a chance, but it is inevitable that one of the many scandals will bring him down. When his approval is around 30% they will push him out.

There was a lot of coverage about Chaffetz leaving congress, but there wasn't a lot of coverage about the letter from the ethics committee asking for information about Trump violations of the emoluments clause.

Hillary isn't going to become president, but this scandal is going to cause the republicans to lose the house and senate in 2018, the White House in 2020 and a reversal of everything that Trump is trying to do.

The most positive thing that's gonna come out of this is that we are seeing first hand that people who are born into fortune are not always smart people. Sometimes those people are just greedy, selfish bullies.

There will be policies moving forward recognizing that fact.

And Gorsuch must go

and, again, the remedy to a coup is the democratically elected.

We've never been here before. We *must* do our best to insure we never get here again.

The Constitution is a living, breathing document. We the People!

We The People!

WE THE PEOPLE!

Stay woke. Don't let them divide us. Don't let them 'dial us back'...insist on 'new this' or 'particular that' because that is just divisiveness is another form. Stay woke.

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We have an illegitimate appointee to the Supreme Court. The legislative branch therefore must better reflect the will of the people.

Who in our Justice Department is going to prosecute? They all work for Trump. There is no one coming to save us. The calvary does not exist.

I watched the clip of Maxine Waters last night where she was interrupted by Donnie Deutch? trying to bait her into stating she was bad for her constituents by refusing to work with 45.

That was an attack if I've ever seen one, I'm not familiar with him but now I know I don't like him.

But she said one thing that gave me hope, the fact that in the Senate it was John McCain that was in charge of the investigation.

I've always thought that McCain was a true American Patriot and Hero, that thought has not been popular in some circles but I've always thought when it comes to push or shove he will choose country over ideology.

That gives me hope, it's obvious he hates 45 with a passion and he brought the Steele dossier to the attention of the FBI before anybody was known to have done so.

The FBI most likely would have found out about it sooner or later but McCain did the right thing right off the bat.

I don't think he'll let the conspirators get away with this, I really don't.

So hope springs eternal.......

as I do, but that's about the extent of my admiration for his behavior as a civilian.

They did whatever they had to do to steal the election with the thought that they could cover it up once they had all the power.

I think we can stay vigilant

...and I have serious doubts if any "political" solution is possible. Would these people really permit themselves to be exposed, when they control all the levers of government, and de facto control the media? If they did what we suspect them to have done in order to gain power in 2016--will they allow themselves to lose the elections of 2018 or 2020? This is why all the blithe talk of "winning" the next election seems so false to me. They won't permit a real election, and who will stop them, when they control the state houses and, now, the Supreme Court? If--*if*--the worst suspicions are true, then our Constitution has *already* broken down. In those circumstances, some sort of intervention might be the least bad option. And God help me for even thinking along those lines...but I can't see what the endgame in all this will be. Whatever happens, we cannot permit them to blame it all on Trump, and anoint Pence as a national "healer"...that would be the worst outcome of all...

that the R in their title stands for Russian.

We need to McCarthy these traitors at every turn and have them prove the negative.

Are you now or have you ever met with Russians? (I would even throw Joe Manchin in there)

Follow the money. True then and true now!

tRump had an impressive firewall in place; Ryan, Flynn,McConnell, Sessions, Nunes, Chaffetz and Burr. Not so much now.

The truth has a way of leaking out through the cracks.

The Republicans are looking pretty awful, too.

This is one of those really dark times for our country. A lot of people are looking really pathetic and greedy and just plain crooked.

and block investigations. They were mistaken.

Drowning under the weight of their own corruption and incompetence.

...so we could throw them all OUT! This whole election, and every single person pRezident DFT has chosen for any poition are ALL tainted.

They brought Nunes and Burr into the transition in an effort to co-opt the House and Senate Intel Committees.

Brought Flynn in to redirect all intelligence through him.

Brought Sessions in to head DOJ and run herd over the FBI.

Cozied up to Bharara with personal phone calls.

This was a planned cover up.

They thought they had all the investigational bases covered and held down.

But Bharara was a patriot, and Sessions was a moron and liar and also dumb enough to recuse himself, and IC leaks forced Flynn out, and Schneiderman's doing his own thing, and Burr appears to be a patriot, and Comey too appears to be a patriot.

Let's hope this all comes out. And soon, before WW3 starts, or more innocent moms and dads are deported, or more black people go to private prisons over a false drug war.

Even the best designed firewalls have vulnerabilities which can be exploited.

We must follow the trail of Russian money to everyone in the Republican party. It appears money and services went directly to the Trump campaign. Was Russian money and services used to bribe or blackmail the men who formed this firewall? How far does it reach into the House and Senate?

If Congressional leadership and Trump staff are implicated it could lead to a collapse of government, not unheard of in the history of democracies. The Constitution did not contemplate criminality on this order of magnitude so our response has to be respectful of the spirit of the Constitution. That might lead to the appointment of a caretaker government led by the last legally elected president, Obama.

Mainstream corporate media like CNN got Trump elected.

They make money from Trump controversy. They desperately want to avoid getting blamed for damaging America.

Only when the media has taken responsibility can we really move on.

If you haven't seen this video on CNNs problems, you're missing out.

http://www.vox.com/videos/2017/4/17/15325172/strikethrough-cnn-espn-trump-surrogates

We are relying on a broken system to perform the job it was intended to do. We wanted to rely on the vote, but it was rigged. We wanted to rely on the EC, but they were scaredy cats. We are waiting for intelligence, but they are taking FOREVER!

If tRump were arrested today and put away for the rest of his life, I would not trust the system any more than I do. The system is BROKEN. It must be fixed.

Oh, I am awake. I have been for a long time. We need to be keeping a checklist of items to change after this horror show ends.

I am emotionally fatigued on this. It is just all so insane.
If I were very young might be in for a revolution; not sure now.

Remember that the federal government is still basically a skeleton organization. Hiring is frozen, lifers are streaming out and Trump is not filling vacancies through appointments. Except CBP, which seem to be his own personal Redshirts. He is expanding that undisciplined, paramilitary group as fast as possible. He has hobbled the government's ability to respond to crisis. If he creates a crisis intentionally, things could go sideways fast.