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The idea is to fight for social and economic justice with EQUAL passion (Original Post) Ken Burch Apr 2017 OP
Not if, as some proposed, throwing women, minorities and LGBT under the bus RandySF Apr 2017 #1
No one should throw ANYONE under the bus, and no one who said anyone should be thrown under Ken Burch Apr 2017 #2
Thank you, Ken. hedda_foil Apr 2017 #3

RandySF

(58,911 posts)
1. Not if, as some proposed, throwing women, minorities and LGBT under the bus
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 06:48 PM
Apr 2017

And there were some pretty chilling posts on DU last year suggesting we kick those issues off to the state in order to forge an economic coalition with right wing populists.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. No one should throw ANYONE under the bus, and no one who said anyone should be thrown under
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 07:09 PM
Apr 2017

should be welcome here(Bernie, for one, NEVER said anyone should be thrown under any bus).

But happily, it doesn't have to be "either/or" or "zero/sum".

We can center both...and we NEED to, because neither justice struggle can truly be won if the other is back-burnered.

And the overwhelming majority of economic justice campaigners are also strong supporters of social justice(I'm pretty sure it's the same in the other direction).

The answer is not to say "nothing can change", it's work out guidelines to make sure no one is betrayed.

Part of what informs the views of some economic justice types is the position the Beltway Dems took starting in the Eighties and Nineties(and that hasn't totally been abandoned)which held that being pro-choice, slightly pro-LGBTQ and barely anti-racist(the DLC position)meant that it was ok that the party was right-wing on economic and foreign policy, and "law and order&quot i.e., let the police departments go scorched-earth on everybody in the cities that wasn't a rich white ma).

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