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rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
Wed May 3, 2017, 11:55 PM May 2017

Chaffetz threatens to go after Obama's pension.

Verified account: Jason Chaffetz?
@jasoninthehouse
Obama's $400,000 speech could prompt Congress to go after his pension https://usat.ly/2pyJUSb via @USATODAY Yes, it will




On talk circuit, George W. Bush makes millions but few waves
Since 2009, the former president has given at least 200 paid speeches, typically pocketing $100,000 to $175,000 per appearance.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/on-talk-circuit-george-bush-makes-millions-but-few-waves-118697

Since 2009, POLITICO has found, Bush has given at least 200 paid speeches and probably many more, typically pocketing $100,000 to $175,000 per appearance. The part-time work, which rarely requires more than an hour on stage, has earned him tens of millions of dollars.

Relative to the Clintons, though, he’s attracted considerably less attention, almost always doing his paid public speaking in private, in convention centers and hotel ballrooms, resorts and casinos, from Canada to Asia, from New York to Miami, from all over Texas to Las Vegas a bunch, playing his part in what has become a lucrative staple of the modern post-presidency.


Eight Days in Japan Earn Ron and Nancy $2 Million—Now That's Reaganomics
http://people.com/archive/eight-days-in-japan-earn-ron-and-nancy-2-million-now-thats-reaganomics-vol-32-no-19/

. . . He gave a few speeches. He dined well. He was interviewed on Japanese TV. And, after eight days, Ronald Reagan returned to his California ranch with an estimated $2 million that he didn’t have before.

The former First Couple flew to Japan in a specially equipped Boeing 747, complete with bedroom and shower. They shared the plane, although not the bedroom or the shower, with a retinue of 20 staffers, a dozen Secret Service agents and 229 U.S. military dependents invited along for a free ride to visit their relatives stationed in Japan.


Video embedded
To Help US Veterans Charity, George W. Bush Charged $100,000
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-veterans-charity-george-bush-charged-100000/story?id=32251253

Former President George W. Bush charged $100,000 to speak at a charity fundraiser for U.S. military veterans severely wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan, and former First Lady Laura Bush collected $50,000 to appear a year earlier, officials of the Texas-based Helping a Hero charity confirmed to ABC News.

The former President was also provided with a private jet to travel to Houston at a cost of $20,000, the officials said.

The charity, which helps to provide specially-adapted homes for veterans who lost limbs and suffered other severe injuries in “the war on terror in Iraq and Afghanistan,” said the total $170,000 expenditure was justified because the former President and First Lady offered discounted fees and helped raise record amounts in contributions at galas held in 2011 and 2012.


Ex-House speaker Dennis Hastert stripped of Illinois pension
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028989836
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/26/ex-house-speaker-dennis-hastert-stripped-illinois-pension/100943972/

An Illinois retirement board voted on Wednesday to end pension payments to the disgraced former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert for his years of service in the Illinois General Assembly.

The state’s General Assembly Retirement System’s board of trustees, which is made up of state lawmakers, voted 5-2 to terminate $755 in monthly payments Hastert was receiving for his three terms in the Illinois House of Representatives, according to Tim Blair, the board's executive secretary.

Hastert, the former GOP House Speaker, is serving a 15-month federal prison sentence for bank fraud related to an attempt to cover up hush-money payments he was making to a former student he sexually abused during his time as a high school wrestling coach and teacher more than 35 years ago.


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Thanks, all of those on the left that complained about Obama speaking fee, you've been a great help.

I also added a few articles about past Presidents and how little they've made on the speaking circuit. Which is why someone like Bush has safely kept his pension.

Searching DU to see if anyone had posted about Chaffetz's pension story and found a gem as well. For close to a year you can hold on to your pension. Especially after you're found to have molested children and illegally paid other to keep quiet about your assaults. Just don't be the first black president or they'll come after you with the quickness.
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Chaffetz threatens to go after Obama's pension. (Original Post) rogue emissary May 2017 OP
We can smell the... 2naSalit May 2017 #1
Hypocrisy or racism? n/t malaise May 2017 #28
Both. Bigly. smirkymonkey May 2017 #29
Same here malaise May 2017 #30
Same here too... 2naSalit May 2017 #38
I agree Democrats did us no favors, but this is going nowhere angstlessk May 2017 #2
"I agree Democrats did us no favors" Then why are you here? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2017 #4
Uh, the same reason you are? angstlessk May 2017 #6
By 'Democrats did us no favor' I meant those who went after Obama angstlessk May 2017 #8
They don't even try to hide their racism these days Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2017 #3
All those mindless smears against Democrats served up free, why wouldn't Republicans R B Garr May 2017 #5
Exactly, RB.. Ignorant smears @ Pres Obama by Cha May 2017 #10
Some Democrats do the Republican's work for free. yardwork May 2017 #31
Retroactive application is foul. PdxSean May 2017 #7
Exactly, that was the agreement they all served under. rogue emissary May 2017 #40
I'm REC this so more can see what this Shithead Cha May 2017 #9
Isn't CaFF ASS sheshe2 May 2017 #13
The law on federal pensions is very explicit. Scruffy1 May 2017 #11
the tweet replies are great lmao JHan May 2017 #12
Omg. Get a fucking life. Go have your "foot surgery". Glimmer of Hope May 2017 #14
He is such a piece of shit rusty fender May 2017 #15
Somebody please pnuch Chaffetz in the face. longship May 2017 #16
Hahaha. narnian60 May 2017 #18
... longship May 2017 #20
Chaffetz has a face which cries out to be pounded, but who would want to touch it? Wear gloves. n/t Judi Lynn May 2017 #21
Not pounded... pnuched, as in Mnuchin needs to have his face pnuched. longship May 2017 #22
Because President Blackenstein musette_sf May 2017 #17
Smell that? It is called bitterness and desperation and Chaffetz reeks of it. AgadorSparticus May 2017 #19
Chaffetz's foot is up his ass, he should be in a "high risk" pool for that. Cattledog May 2017 #23
Didn't Chaffetz just resign? Ken Burch May 2017 #24
unfortunately, not soon enough. No official date has been announced. rogue emissary May 2017 #41
Would love to know the names of his colleagues who support this . nocalflea May 2017 #25
Knew it! His library plans unveiled yesterday - they'd come after him somehow. underpants May 2017 #26
Hasn't he publicly acknowledged having a screw loose? JHB May 2017 #27
The Obamas are probably the most popular couple to ever leave the White House. Vinca May 2017 #32
It's not gonna happen. underthematrix May 2017 #33
Funny how money is always the issue Nonhlanhla May 2017 #34
Their greatest disappointment Generic Other May 2017 #37
Chaffetz is a really stupid and ignorant person Gothmog May 2017 #35
Go on, Shitfacetz, if you have the balls left, or not in prison yourself. OnDoutside May 2017 #36
As the article states, this isn't a controversial idea - and it wouldn't impact Obama's pension onenote May 2017 #39
I thought this clown was stepping down Egnever May 2017 #42
Un.fucking.believable. nt LaydeeBug May 2017 #43

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
38. Same here too...
Thu May 4, 2017, 10:03 AM
May 2017

in answer to Malaise's question. Although I am still not totally at the hate point as a constant, it does come in flashes though.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
8. By 'Democrats did us no favor' I meant those who went after Obama
Thu May 4, 2017, 12:13 AM
May 2017

NOT Obama...his health care plan is in jeopardy, and for him to speak anywhere about it for any amount of money is fair play!

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
5. All those mindless smears against Democrats served up free, why wouldn't Republicans
Thu May 4, 2017, 12:08 AM
May 2017

continue it. What a huge mistake. Never again.

Cha

(297,260 posts)
10. Exactly, RB.. Ignorant smears @ Pres Obama by
Thu May 4, 2017, 12:16 AM
May 2017

his own party served up so this asshole can go after President Obama's pension.

Ain't gonna happen, though.

PdxSean

(574 posts)
7. Retroactive application is foul.
Thu May 4, 2017, 12:12 AM
May 2017

Obama and prior presidents ran and serve with the understanding that there would be a pension. It is one thing to apply it going forward, but absolutely foul to apply it retroactively against those who have already served.

Cha

(297,260 posts)
9. I'm REC this so more can see what this Shithead
Thu May 4, 2017, 12:14 AM
May 2017

is doing.

This asshole is doing more than Whining and calling it "distasteful" and comparing it to "working for trump".. When President Obama is getting paid $400,000 to speak at Cantor-Fitzgerald in September at their annual Health Conference

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
13. Isn't CaFF ASS
Thu May 4, 2017, 12:35 AM
May 2017

Having his foot looked after and leaving office quickly?

Do I have the wrong person here?

Fugg him.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
11. The law on federal pensions is very explicit.
Thu May 4, 2017, 12:25 AM
May 2017

it's nearly impossible to rescind a federal pension. hastert will stil get his. What an idiot Chafuzz is/ He's just trying to feed his racists supporters some red meat.

longship

(40,416 posts)
16. Somebody please pnuch Chaffetz in the face.
Thu May 4, 2017, 01:39 AM
May 2017

Then pnuch Secy Mnuchin in the face.

Hell! Pnuch them all in the face!

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
21. Chaffetz has a face which cries out to be pounded, but who would want to touch it? Wear gloves. n/t
Thu May 4, 2017, 02:00 AM
May 2017

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
19. Smell that? It is called bitterness and desperation and Chaffetz reeks of it.
Thu May 4, 2017, 01:44 AM
May 2017

What a POS. Can't wait for him to fade away.

underpants

(182,819 posts)
26. Knew it! His library plans unveiled yesterday - they'd come after him somehow.
Thu May 4, 2017, 06:20 AM
May 2017

Hint Chaffetz - stop mentioning him. The juxtaposition with your nightmare doesn't suit you well.

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
32. The Obamas are probably the most popular couple to ever leave the White House.
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:23 AM
May 2017

Someone I bet they could eke out an existence without the pension. Taking it away would be an incredibly unfair and nasty thing to do, but we've come to expect that from Republicans.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
34. Funny how money is always the issue
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:38 AM
May 2017

when it comes to a black president. White presidents can go on vacation, can get pensions, can get speaking fees. Our first black president: whining from Republicans about every vacation the Obamas ever took, whining from Republicans and some "progressives" about Obama's speaking fees, and now whining about Obama's pension. So...

Dear White People

If you complain about a black president receiving some of the same compensations white presidents took for granted, you may be racist. Think about that.

Love, a fellow white person.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
37. Their greatest disappointment
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:31 AM
May 2017

They hate the fact this black man has not been ruined for having the audacity to succeed.

onenote

(42,704 posts)
39. As the article states, this isn't a controversial idea - and it wouldn't impact Obama's pension
Thu May 4, 2017, 10:14 AM
May 2017

Hate to throw a dose of reality at this, but the bill Chaffetz is threatening to reintroduce is one that was co-sponsored last year by Elijah Cummings and passed the House and Senate by voice votes. It would cap the allowance for ex-presidents office expenses at $200,000, with a dollar for dollar reduction in that amount for income earned by the ex president in excess of $400,000. Notwithstanding some bad reporting, the bill as introduced and passed did not tie an ex-president's pension to his earnings -- just the amount of "monetary allowance" for office expenses.

Obama vetoed it, but mostly because it didn't provide for a transition period and thus threatened to result in staff hired by ex-presidents losing their jobs.

Yeah, Chaffetz is a putz and one wonders if he would have bothered to reintroduce his bill (which is not limited in its impact to Obama, but would impact Carter, both Bushes, and Bill Clinton as well) if not for the opportunity presented by the hoopla surrounding Obama's speech fee.

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