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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHoly Cow!: Trump's Transition Team copied documents and removed them from a secure room
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https://apnews.com/b109774705594ae887a86b337c444e6b/Trump-transition-raised-flags-about-Flynn-Russia-contacts
dalton99a
(81,519 posts)Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)were arrested for treason, and not seen/heard from since.
Hmmmmm.....
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)I knew the first time I laid eyes on that dead eyed fucking shit spewing drone; something was not right.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)every newspaper/website/twitter hashtag/instagram/blog everywhere. My GOD. It's all right here: the deceit, the espionage, the blatant, breathtaking, indefensible treason it personifies - ? wtf
HurricaneWarning
(220 posts)LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)and his toadies.
but yeah, that is THE question. and on whose orders.
HurricaneWarning
(220 posts)Whatever they accuse Hillary or the Obama administration of doing, they, themselves, are doing. It's beyond obvious.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)It feels like some twisted mind came up with a cross between a game of Clue and a 20,000 piece multi-layer jigsaw puzzle. I'm sure that Trump's not smart enough but I suspect Pooty poot is.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)I'm sure he'll be looking into who leaked this information and a House investigation will soon follow.
But seriously....this actually happened, but the POSSIBILITY that Hillary's server could have been hacked and compromised was enough to cause the media kick her to the curb?
Granted, Trumpco has a LOT to worry about these days...what with evidence mounting that they colluded with Russia to throw the election...but in the world of REAL news....this would be the earth-shaking genesis of a push for impeachment.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)No excuse for that. Not "it was accidental". Not "we didn't understand the rules". Not "everybody else does it". None of that should be listened to. In order to get access to that info you have to have a clearance and the clearance isn't issued until you sign saying you fully understand the rules and laws on how to properly handle classified information.
3_Limes
(363 posts)That doesn't make much sense. How'd they copy the documents? I'm sure they had to surrender their phones before entering. Did they transcribe them by hand?
Perspiring minds want to know.
we can do it
(12,189 posts)we can do it
(12,189 posts)kpete
(71,997 posts)Last edited Sat May 6, 2017, 11:08 AM - Edit history (1)
The Trump team, knowing some of what Yates will say (in testimony they tried to prevent), is now making the remaining White House officials look good, and providing a somewhat plausible explanation for obtaining just the Kislyak dossier. But APs revelation that Trumps people were copying documents from the SCIF that held the dossier raise questions about whether the reason it was obtained was to share the dossier. Neither story mentions what Adam Schiff has, which is that one really interesting detail will be the delay in ousting Flynn after Yates first told the White House of her concerns.Both the stories leave out a detail the NYT previously reported that seems important, however: that Kislyak meeting, which the spook-savvy Flynn and the young Kushner attended, led to a second and a third, ultimately leading Kushner to meet the FSB-trained head of a sanctioned bank.
Until now, the White House had acknowledged only an early December meeting between Mr. Kislyak and Mr. Kushner, which occurred at Trump Tower and was also attended by Michael T. Flynn, who would briefly serve as the national security adviser.
Later that month, though, Mr. Kislyak requested a second meeting, which Mr. Kushner asked a deputy to attend in his stead, officials said. At Mr. Kislyaks request, Mr. Kushner later met with Sergey N. Gorkov, the chief of Vnesheconombank, which drew sanctions from the Obama administration after President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia annexed Crimea and began meddling in Ukraine.
The subtext of taking the two Billingslea stories and the Sergey Gorkov one together is that Flynn or even the Presidents son-in-law may have provided intelligence to the Russians, in events that led up to the closest thing weve seen to a possible quid pro quo.
In any case, the dossier seems either better suited to warning Kushner, not Flynn, of the dangers he was navigating, or a document that, if copied and handed to its subject, would be interesting though not devastating intelligence to share.
One final point: this story helps to explain why both the December 28 sanctions and the early January hack report were so awful; remember, too, when first announced, the press had the wrong location of the Long Island compound in question. At the time, I thought both were designed to be a document, any document, ones that didnt reveal what the intelligence community actually knew (aside from the identities of the 35 expelled diplomats), particularly regarding who actually conducted the DNC hack. The AP story reveals Obamas team was particularly worried Trumps team would warn the Russians in time to dismantle some of the communications equipment at the two compounds. The crummy documents, plus the delay in informing Congress of the scope of the investigation until Flynn had been ousted, are both best explained by a concern that the National Security Advisor would share the information directly with Russia.
So will we learn that Flynn or Kushner did share such information?
MORE plus links:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/05/06/the-implications-of-the-competing-flynn-billingslea-stories/
ALSO Malcolm Nance on Joy's Show:
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FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)This was known even back when Obama was still in office.
Either Yates (or Obama) came up with the idea to number the "Eyes-Only" documents so they can verify them later and see what turns up missing later. Obama had most of the pieces to the Russia question before he left office, and Sally Yates did her job well.
Let's hope she gets to testify and show us what she knows.
Nay
(12,051 posts)computer printers, and you surrender your phones/cameras/recorders (generally) beforehand.
Honestly, this is getting pretty serious, folks.
TrishaJ
(798 posts)HER EMAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mme. Defarge
(8,034 posts)After learning that highly sensitive documents from a secure room at the transitions Washington headquarters were being copied and removed from the facility, Obamas national security team decided to only allow the transition officials to view some information at the White House, including documents on the governments contingency plans for crises.
lark
(23,111 posts)People who displease Putin don't live long and drumpf is in hock to him big time.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)Mr. big shot- negotiator- deal maker -CEO tRUMP who wants to run the country like a business MUST be held responsible. Just as every CEO would be if something of this magnitude happened in their company. LOCK THEM ALL UP but the CEO longest.