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babylonsister

(171,072 posts)
Sat May 6, 2017, 03:00 PM May 2017

Charles P. Pierce: The Resistance Cannot Wait Until 2018

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a54921/republican-healthcare-bill-resistance/

The Resistance Cannot Wait Until 2018
There are actual lives on the line.

By Charles P. Pierce
May 5, 2017


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By any conventional political calculation, any sane politician would seek the bottom of the Laurentian Abyssal rather than vote for the House bill. The commercials are already busily writing themselves—pregnancy as a pre-existing condition, Jason Chaffetz and his idiot scooter, the fact that the guy who wrote the decisive fig-leaf amendment did so from his beach house on Long Island—and I'm sure they will be highly entertaining. In my experience, no politician with plans for the future and any ordinary sense of self-interest would vote for a bill that will make lives more miserable, and then get filmed grinning like a bonobo on the South Lawn and toasting the vote with some authentic American barley bilge. I know good, smart political consultants from both parties who would throw themselves into the Charles if their clients voted for this abomination and then partied like teenage yobs from Charlestown.

But we have passed so far beyond the conventional that hardly anyone remembers what it's like anymore. Most of the major news organizations are conspicuously adapting to the zany new reality, applying conventional political laws and logic in a context where neither fully apply anymore. And, make no mistake, this did not come in with the current president*. This was a healthcare "reform" bill that, all things being equal, would have passed under President Cruz, or President Kasich, or President Paul.

It is a bill that, in 2017, any Republican Congress would have passed and any Republican president would sign. It is a bill born out of everything into which modern conservatism has transformed modern Republicanism: a punitive view of the poor and unlucky, based in Iron Age concepts of the will of the Lord; magic-asterisk economics; a resolute opposition to empirical data and a scalding contempt for expertise; and an ability to torture the English language to the point of unconsciousness. This is the long way around to the point that I don't trust the Senate, either.

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And, as much as I hate to doubt the good heartland people who voted for this guy, I think they'd react worse to losing an illusory victory over Them than they will to losing their actual healthcare. For the foreseeable future, Republican politicians, House and Senate, remain more threatened by the wrath of The Base than they are by any unfortunate mother and child who pop up on the local news. Whatever emerges from this process will be a Republican bill, thickly coated in banalities about freedom and marketplace solutions, but with nothing resembling a commitment to the same goals that animated the passage of the Affordable Care Act.

And, no, I don't have any faith in Republican "moderates" in the Senate. They fold like cardboard in a downpour. They vote as moderates when given permission to do so, and only if there's a safe one in the bag. I have seen the film, Susan Collins: Prisoner of Conscience, so often I can recite the dialogue. The third act is always predictable.

This is what I think about the politics. I think any serious political pressure has to come from outside. (For example, if Jon Ossoff in Georgia and Rob Quist in Montana were to win their congressional races, that would turn up the heat a bit.) But whatever response is marshaled against what happened Thursday cannot tolerate any amnesties. It no longer matters whether or not someone voted for or against the bill. The party itself produced it as a perfect definition of what the party actually believes. No Republican should skate on this. Anger should be focused precisely and applied generally.

This is now a test for that which calls itself The Resistance. There are actual lives on the line on this issue. If The Resistance is going to mean anything at all, it can't wait until 2018. This is the great political fight of the moment. The midterms can wait.

And, of course, with all the voter suppression and gerrymandering…
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Charles P. Pierce: The Resistance Cannot Wait Until 2018 (Original Post) babylonsister May 2017 OP
It's foolish to trust the Senate. dalton99a May 2017 #1
no Rcon senator left who won't bend over for limbaugh certainot May 2017 #11
Repug Senate "moderation" is R kabuki & MSM mythology;they conformed Sessions, Devos et alios. stuffmatters May 2017 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author BigmanPigman May 2017 #2
This is what I've been saying...we can't wait! This is a national (and global) emergency! BigmanPigman May 2017 #3
K&R mcar May 2017 #4
"Be patient. It took two years to bring Nixon down." CrispyQ May 2017 #5
and nixon didn't have talk radio on his side, kicking our ass certainot May 2017 #12
I don't think so, either... kentuck May 2017 #6
K&R SMC22307 May 2017 #7
Granted wryter2000 May 2017 #8
Every Democrat in every campaign should have been campaigning against ALL Republicans for the past world wide wally May 2017 #9
Pierce is on the money. Eyeball_Kid May 2017 #10
K & R SunSeeker May 2017 #13
Right. People keep on saying the midterms are just around the corner. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #14
Agrred, too much at stake... 2naSalit May 2017 #16
squeaky wheels and continuous pressure BarbD May 2017 #17
Put pressure on people who voted for Trump benpollard May 2017 #18
We should not have to gamble with the survival of our country in such a way. kentuck May 2017 #19
KnR Hekate May 2017 #20
The DNC should organize at a grass roots level Mr.Bill May 2017 #21
Agreed. And we should do what we can where we are. Tatiana May 2017 #22
Charles Pierce is spot on, as usual NastyRiffraff May 2017 #23
Charlie Is Dead On colsohlibgal May 2017 #24

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
15. Repug Senate "moderation" is R kabuki & MSM mythology;they conformed Sessions, Devos et alios.
Sat May 6, 2017, 05:14 PM
May 2017

The Republican totalitarian kakistocracy isn't coming, we're smack in it now. And the stakes are life vs death.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
3. This is what I've been saying...we can't wait! This is a national (and global) emergency!
Sat May 6, 2017, 03:17 PM
May 2017

Look at what he did in the first few weeks of his illegitimate presidency. We can't wait for Russian investigations or the Repub to say he's crazy and impeach him. We also can't put all of our eggs into one basket hoping the Resistance will come to the rescue. This has to come from every rational person and not just women, minorities, the ill, immigrants, etc. I have been "resisting" since Nov 9th and will continue to do so but I am a realist.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
5. "Be patient. It took two years to bring Nixon down."
Sat May 6, 2017, 03:53 PM
May 2017

That's been posted many times on DU, but we don't have two years! They are taking a sledge hammer to our government & the dems continue to play by the rules. Every day I become a little more resigned to the fact that no one is going to do anything about Donald Trump. The Russian investigation doesn't seem to be going anywhere. The republicans sure aren't pushing it. The dems couldn't if they wanted to, since they've been neutered. The media seems to have lost interest, except for a few on MSNBC. The military is probably happy to be given a longer leash with less accountability. If the Comey hearing is any indicator, the intelligence community won't do anything. And We the People are busy working 2-4 jobs to keep our heads above water, while they take away our health care & set their sites on our social security & medicare.

There are five people in my life that I know voted for Trump & I've avoided them since the election. But with each passing day, I fear I may not be able to be civil to them if I see them.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
6. I don't think so, either...
Sat May 6, 2017, 03:56 PM
May 2017

that we can wait til 2018. I don't know what we can do other than raise hell.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
8. Granted
Sat May 6, 2017, 04:34 PM
May 2017

But what do we do?

The only thing that seems remotely helpful is to apply pressure to every Republican in the Congress. My folks are all Dems and very good ones. I can call them and say "Good job. Keep it up." But I have no faith anyone in the Congress would listen to me if I'm not their constituent. Hell, they're even avoiding their constituents.

I've given money to Act Blue to help defeat the 24 vulnerable Republicans in the House. I can give more money. I marched in the Women's March and will march again (proudly wearing my pussy hat). Other than that I don't know what power I have.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
9. Every Democrat in every campaign should have been campaigning against ALL Republicans for the past
Sat May 6, 2017, 04:41 PM
May 2017

20 years!
If they don't start doing it now, we will see even more catastrophic events.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
10. Pierce is on the money.
Sat May 6, 2017, 04:43 PM
May 2017

The entire Republican Party is corrupt to its core. How do we know this?

WHO in the GOP is renouncing their agenda? Where are the dissenting voices from within?

There aren't any. Some GOPers are voting tactical dissent, but are not renouncing the entire Republican agenda of more money and power for the rich and fewer quality-of-life rights for the rest of us.

They don't care about anyone but their own wealthy slice of the nation. Everyone else? They're unnecessary hangers-on. They're liabilities if they aren't cheap labor. They don't need quality of life. They need to die.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
14. Right. People keep on saying the midterms are just around the corner.
Sat May 6, 2017, 05:03 PM
May 2017

They are not. They are a year and a half away. And a new Congress is nearly two years down the road.

Unless we can make things so uncomfortable the Representatives start resigning en masse, leading to special elections to be won by Democrats, things are going to get vastly worse before we can hope to begin to change things back.

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
16. Agrred, too much at stake...
Sat May 6, 2017, 05:21 PM
May 2017

and the long distance between any potential next election, there's too much to lose. We cannot wait any longer.

BarbD

(1,193 posts)
17. squeaky wheels and continuous pressure
Sat May 6, 2017, 05:29 PM
May 2017

It's a real challenge -- knowing that each day Trump is destroying something in our lives. I believe that this Republican rot can be destroyed by the light of truth. We need to shout it from the rooftops.

benpollard

(199 posts)
18. Put pressure on people who voted for Trump
Sat May 6, 2017, 05:44 PM
May 2017

Know anyone who voted for Trump? Tell him (or her) he's unAmerican. Trump has been violating the Constitution with his conflicts of interest since the day he took office and three of his executive orders have been ruled unConstitutional.

One cannot love America and also support Trump. America is defined by our Constitution, and if you're fine with the Constitutional violations, you don't love America.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
19. We should not have to gamble with the survival of our country in such a way.
Sat May 6, 2017, 05:49 PM
May 2017

We cannot wait until 2018.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
21. The DNC should organize at a grass roots level
Sat May 6, 2017, 06:09 PM
May 2017

in all 50 states recall votes on every republican elected official. I mean every one of them that are subject to recall. Make them put out the effort and spend the money to fight against losing their jobs.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
22. Agreed. And we should do what we can where we are.
Sat May 6, 2017, 06:28 PM
May 2017

For example, Rachel Maddow was maligned for hyping Trump's tax returns that weren't all there. However, she gave a very convincing appeal to anyone out there who might actually have the goods.

We have to encourage leakers all day, every day. We have to tattoo the corrupt Party of Russia with evidence of their traitorous behavior. And, to be honest, we have to stop being the Mom and Dad party. The rebellious and conniving Republican children keep crashing our new cars into buildings, killing many of our citizens. And, yet, we keep giving them keys to a new car so they can keep hurting more people and we can feel like we are "good" parents. We have to stop giving them the keys. We have to find a way to make so-called "red" states pay for continuously electing Republicans. I'm sorry, but the biggest beneficiaries of Obamacare are the morons that voted to elect Trump. Give these people what they voted for!

Any Democrat that refuses to endorse and support the winner of a Democratic primary against a Republican needs to be essentially excommunicated and left to their own devices with no support from the party (I'm looking at our Congressional friend in Florida and our Independent pal in Vermont). We don't have the luxury of being purists at this point.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
23. Charles Pierce is spot on, as usual
Sat May 6, 2017, 06:45 PM
May 2017

This is an emergency. Waiting two years or two months while doing nothing is not an option. We have to prime good Democrats to apply pressure, every day. Publicly challenge Republican lawmakers when they hide from their own constituents. Use social meda. March, join the Indivisibles or a similar group, nag your own Congresspeople relentlessly. We must be thousands of thorns in their sides, all day, every day.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
24. Charlie Is Dead On
Sat May 6, 2017, 08:44 PM
May 2017

This is a fight to take our country back and it does not seem to be a slam dunk we will.

One big reason is the susceptibility of way too many to be suckers for propoganda.

We seem to be way too close to game, set, match. Liberal voters better show up big time in 2018.

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