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DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 07:57 PM Jul 2012

anyone use a computer backup service?

i'm on a free trial of carbonite, but it's not working properly. it takes forever to get someone on the phone and then you have to be transferred to technical support. yesterday i waited 1/2 for technical support and finally hung up.

suggestions? a friend tried backing up my system on a disc but had trouble. i really need a service.

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anyone use a computer backup service? (Original Post) DesertFlower Jul 2012 OP
I would advise you to simply buy an external hard-drive. 99th_Monkey Jul 2012 #1
I do the same thing - don't trust online backup services. Initech Jul 2012 #11
Robbery, house fire, etc. My data is too important (source code, etc) to risk on site backup. n-t Logical Jul 2012 #12
I agree high density Jul 2012 #13
Hmmm, I will check that out. Logical Jul 2012 #14
Doesn't apply here, but thanx for your 2-cents worth anyway. 99th_Monkey Jul 2012 #17
I agree. Different situations. n-t Logical Jul 2012 #18
Have you tried a flash drive? Holds more than a disk. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #2
yep, got a terabyte hard drive for under 100.00 spanone Jul 2012 #6
I don't trust them. Incitatus Jul 2012 #3
Does it need to be offsite? immoderate Jul 2012 #4
I use Dropbox for all my important files.... mike_c Jul 2012 #5
Agree 100%...nt PCIntern Jul 2012 #10
LOL, reading this later I realized it wasn't very obvious... mike_c Jul 2012 #24
I use Dropbox Turbineguy Jul 2012 #32
Why not ask in the Computer Forum? struggle4progress Jul 2012 #7
We use one where I work. Curmudgeoness Jul 2012 #8
Do not trust thumb drives, 5X Jul 2012 #9
That is why you ALWAYS take the backup off premises. RC Jul 2012 #29
I have been a DU member since 2003. My company does online backups. It's all we do. democrat_patriot Jul 2012 #15
I heard crashplan is the best Jumping John Jul 2012 #16
I use Crashplan Paulie Jul 2012 #22
Been using Mozy Pro forever. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #19
Check out Storegrid star4288 Jul 2012 #20
My Norton 360 package came with free file backup but I have never used it Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #21
Don't put all of your trust in "the cloud" Trekologer Jul 2012 #23
I use an external HD littlewolf Jul 2012 #25
Try this: democrat_patriot Jul 2012 #26
I've been VERY happy with Carbonite flyingfysh Jul 2012 #27
A day and a half? How much data. democrat_patriot Jul 2012 #28
I had about 800GB of data flyingfysh Jul 2012 #31
That would explain it democrat_patriot Jul 2012 #33
Free and easy alternative. Install Ubuntu. Several options available, Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #30
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
1. I would advise you to simply buy an external hard-drive.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:14 PM
Jul 2012

Last edited Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:14 PM - Edit history (1)

I have a MacMini, OSx 10.5.8 system, and bought a Verbatim external
drive for back-up purposes, using a program called Time Machine, and
the whole thing only cost me $50 (ONE time).

I could NOT bring myself to trust some anonymous corporation to store
my data for me somewhere "out there" in the ethernets. This way the
information is not only backed up affordably, but remains MY information,
and no one else has access to it but ME, and whoever I WANT to have it.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
12. Robbery, house fire, etc. My data is too important (source code, etc) to risk on site backup. n-t
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:25 PM
Jul 2012

high density

(13,397 posts)
13. I agree
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:34 PM
Jul 2012

It took me a while to realize that backups sitting next to my computer were totally useless for certain types of losses. I now use JungleDisk to save my most important data (in encrypted form) to Amazon S3.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
17. Doesn't apply here, but thanx for your 2-cents worth anyway.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:09 PM
Jul 2012

I live in very low-fire-risk steel frame high-rise, which is
also very secure as far as "burglary" goes ... everyone's
situation is different.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
4. Does it need to be offsite?
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:16 PM
Jul 2012

I bought a USB hard drive last year. It came with software to back up my C drive built in. It was backing up my system a few minutes after I plugged it in.

Couldn't hurt.

--imm

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
5. I use Dropbox for all my important files....
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:16 PM
Jul 2012

Just pay the annual fee, don't recall how much it is but it's quite reasonable. Otherwise the storage limits are pretty paltry. I run Dropbox on my laptop, my home office computer, my campus office computer, and my lab PC, so in addition to the Dropbox cloud, every important file I put there is quickly mirrored on four other computers. Not a viable solution for the porn collection, I suppose, at least not the way I have it configured, but I think DB will let you mirror specific directories on specific computers, so the stuff your boss would frown at on the office hard drive can be directed elsewhere-- I just don't have any need to do that, so I mirror everything. It's incredibly easy, reliable, and transparent. Just put a file in a DB directory, and it's backed up within minutes.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
24. LOL, reading this later I realized it wasn't very obvious...
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 01:46 PM
Jul 2012

...that I was joking about the porn collection, LOL.


Sure you were, Mike. That's what they all say....

Turbineguy

(37,361 posts)
32. I use Dropbox
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:28 PM
Jul 2012

it allows me to collaborate with other people and data is automatically transferred to my other computers.

I use an HP simple save for backup, but the data is not encrypted so I'm looking to change that.

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
7. Why not ask in the Computer Forum?
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:26 PM
Jul 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1095

Give some details about your machine (e.g. 1 hard drive? 6 hard drives?), your OS (e.g. Windows 98? Windows 7?), how much you need to backup (e.g. 10G? 25G? 150G?), and whether you really really need offsite storage (e.g. just don't want to recreate your hello-kitty pic collection? sensitive business stuff you can't afford to lose in a fire?), &c

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
8. We use one where I work.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:31 PM
Jul 2012

We went with a local company that does it, and they are very reliable (we have had to use it in the past). They will do whatever it takes to please you and get it right. And.....well, it is a local company.

(I had never heard of them, and never see ads for them, so you may have some in your local area if you look into it.)

5X

(3,972 posts)
9. Do not trust thumb drives,
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:33 PM
Jul 2012

they just die for no good reason and are easily broken.
External hard drives are fine, but if there is a fire or break in,
you lose the original and the backup.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
29. That is why you ALWAYS take the backup off premises.
Reply to 5X (Reply #9)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:21 PM
Jul 2012

100% of the time, every time. And why you always have more than one back up in the rotation.
If it is important enough to back up, it is important enough to have more than one backup of the important stuff.

democrat_patriot

(2,774 posts)
15. I have been a DU member since 2003. My company does online backups. It's all we do.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:39 PM
Jul 2012

We offer triple encryption, unlimited machines and you can contact me directly. For $5 a month.

If you want to test it out we offer a 200MB trial, or let me know and I can set ou up with a larger account for a free trial.

I donate 10% of my profits to Dem candidates.

Not sure if I can post my URL - PM me and we can walk through the backup.

Thanks!

Dem_patriot

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
22. I use Crashplan
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:29 AM
Jul 2012

Backups all the computers to an external drive at home then send a copy to their storage. Works great for windows, Mac and Linux. You can even backup to friends over the Internet if you wish.

star4288

(1 post)
20. Check out Storegrid
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:55 AM
Jul 2012

We have been trying out Storegrid. So far working fine for us. Looks like they support disk backups also.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
21. My Norton 360 package came with free file backup but I have never used it
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 07:16 AM
Jul 2012

Which is to say I have never retrieved any files. They are out there... somewhere.

Trekologer

(997 posts)
23. Don't put all of your trust in "the cloud"
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 10:41 AM
Jul 2012

A hosted backup service (such as Carbonite) can be convenient but shouldn't be your only backup source. A service that is here today could be gone tomorrow, temporarily or even permanently. The buzzword "the cloud" has come to refer to any type of hosted infrastructure-as-a-service, whether it is applications, servers, or storage.

Large firms (who should know better) often will make the same mistakes too. There is an (incorrect) belief floating around that when someone else is handling your infrastructure ("the cloud&quot then you don't have to worry about it anymore. Wrong--you still have to plan for disaster recovery. Hosted providers have outages--Amazon's cloud service had a fairly large one last weekend. Megaupload (an online storage "locker" service that had at least some legitimate usage for backing up data) was shutdown when the government seized their servers.

A backup protects you from losing data on your computer, whether due to accident or failure. But you need to ensure that the backup is protected as well.

Here's what I do: I have a Windows Home Server with a couple of disks that automatically will backup my files. Then I periodically make a DVD copy of the backup and store it in a safe place. Windows 7 (I think Vista too) makes this easy by automatically performing the backup if you are doing it to a network drive or annoying you until you backup to a removable media such as DVD, flash drive, or external hard drive. Mac OS X has similar functionality as well.

For most people, make (at least) two backups copies and store one in your house where you can get it easily and the other(s) off site, such as in a safe deposit box or simply at a trusted friend/relative's house. By all means, use an online backup service (they're convenient and relatively inexpensive) but also have a backup to the backup.

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
27. I've been VERY happy with Carbonite
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jul 2012

I use Carbonite to back up the most essential files (email, financial, etc) on the Carbonite servers, PLUS I use the version of their service that also makes nightly backups on an external hard drive. Ironically, a couple of weeks after I installed that, my HP machine went kablooey, and I had to send it back to HP. HP had to reimage the hard drive. After I got it back, I put it through the Carbonite restoration procedure (took about a day and a half for the entire hard disk), and I got back EVERYTHING!

Get their premium service that also uses a large external hard drive. It is a lifesaver!

democrat_patriot

(2,774 posts)
28. A day and a half? How much data.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:20 PM
Jul 2012

That's a bit crazy.

Using Acronis or Shadowprotect (with scheduled backups) you can restore an entire PC in under an hour including apps, email etc. Just boot and go. Even to different hardware.

Or an appliance service like Bitbacked.com - which backs up to 25 PC's locally...



democrat_patriot

(2,774 posts)
33. That would explain it
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:44 PM
Jul 2012


Have you looked at Windows 8 Storage Spaces? Similar to Windows Home Server - which I have restored 280GB in 2.25 hours.

Anyway - good luck!
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
30. Free and easy alternative. Install Ubuntu. Several options available,
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:28 PM
Jul 2012

online, and or onto any device you wish, or any combination. While windoze will not see your Linux partition, Linux will see and back up your windoze stuff, and it does it faster and better and for free.

Break those corporate chains, they're just stealing from you.

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