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bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:06 AM May 2017

Melania asked the pope to bless a gold rosary and he did and Ivanka wore

A bizarre stiff modern and coarse fishnet black bridal veil that came to her shoulders. And Melania wore loads of black lace like a sexy widow- for a meeting at 8:30 am with the pope.


Whoa!

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Melania asked the pope to bless a gold rosary and he did and Ivanka wore (Original Post) bettyellen May 2017 OP
And the pope gave him this huge bas relief mandala plaque of PEACE bettyellen May 2017 #1
It is normal that women wear black veils to meet the pope. Also normal applegrove May 2017 #2
I know but these "veils" looked like a British or soap opera funeral - so OTT bettyellen May 2017 #6
I think they were fine. metroins May 2017 #11
it looked like a vampire wedding. bettyellen May 2017 #21
There is no requirement for women to wear formal black or veils when visiting the pope AFAIK... Princess Turandot May 2017 #7
You can call it "normal" lindysalsagal May 2017 #12
that will not go unnoticed by the Saudis DrDan May 2017 #13
I would have MFM008 May 2017 #3
Did Chump wear his red "grab 'em" hat? trusty elf May 2017 #4
The Pope pulled an Al Gore and gave him a screed he wrote about global warming! Pope threw shade! bettyellen May 2017 #9
Though the rules have relaxed somewhat, Staph May 2017 #5
She was trying to outdo Jackie O as a widow.... LOL. bettyellen May 2017 #8
No, she wishes she was a widow. FSogol May 2017 #16
God, Trump looks like a doofus walking to meet the Pope... Satch59 May 2017 #10
I have a theory on the unbuttoned jacket TexasProgresive May 2017 #14
I think he wears the tie long thinking is disguises his big belly. n/t tammywammy May 2017 #15
The unbuttoned jacket is limited camo for his enormous ass. (nt) Paladin May 2017 #17
That works as well. TexasProgresive May 2017 #18
and look at how wonderful this photo is of Barack and the Pope. a kennedy May 2017 #19
I wonder if the gold rosary was an antique artifact? peacebuzzard May 2017 #20
Melania's Catholic? Retrograde May 2017 #22
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. And the pope gave him this huge bas relief mandala plaque of PEACE
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:09 AM
May 2017

And the pope gave him this stern teacher look and said clearly that t symbolized the peace he must bring, and the pope said peace two more times- he's on to Trump!

applegrove

(118,759 posts)
2. It is normal that women wear black veils to meet the pope. Also normal
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:14 AM
May 2017

Last edited Wed May 24, 2017, 04:37 PM - Edit history (3)

that women cover their heads in Saudi Arabia that neither did. I wonder what the defining logic was on that? I guess it would be what Trump's base would like.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
6. I know but these "veils" looked like a British or soap opera funeral - so OTT
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:26 AM
May 2017

And al the women wore black at 8:30 am in May? Weird.
Wait till you see pics.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
7. There is no requirement for women to wear formal black or veils when visiting the pope AFAIK...
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:26 AM
May 2017

but the US delegations seem to always do so for this formal audience. (MO did as well). For example, here's the president of Switzerland, Doris Leuthard, with Francis:

Staph

(6,253 posts)
5. Though the rules have relaxed somewhat,
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:16 AM
May 2017

the traditional attire for a woman in a private audience with the Pope would be a black dress or skirted suit, below knee length, covering the shoulders and with sleeves. Some sort of hat or mantilla was also expected. Limited jewelry. Light or no perfume/cologne.

Though if you were a Catholic queen, you could wear white instead -- privilège du blanc.

Wikipedia is my friend. Check out Audience (meeting).

I actually like what Melania was wearing. It was much better than the black jumpsuit with the WWE belt that she wore in Saudi Arabia. She rarely wears her hair up, so that was a nice change of pace.


 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
8. She was trying to outdo Jackie O as a widow.... LOL.
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:27 AM
May 2017

They both looked like it was an Arron's Spelling production. Yikes.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
10. God, Trump looks like a doofus walking to meet the Pope...
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:34 AM
May 2017

And can he EVER button his suit jacket??? He is so below any sense of class... I hope the Pope lets him have it on human rights, the environment and just everything good that the Pope stands for and the evil Trump stands for...

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
14. I have a theory on the unbuttoned jacket
Wed May 24, 2017, 07:43 AM
May 2017

His ego requires that he wear the same size jacket as he did in the 70s. That means he can't button the jacket. Now if I can figure out why he ties his ties so looooonnnnnggggg!

peacebuzzard

(5,181 posts)
20. I wonder if the gold rosary was an antique artifact?
Wed May 24, 2017, 10:17 AM
May 2017

The Trumps obsession with gold is obscene, but has been a part of religious decor in bygone centuries and subjected to marauders (as in this case). Indeed the somber funeral garb the ladies are wearing is more fitting for a midnight vampire masquerade rather than a papal visit. Pope Francis had to endure this unpleasant appointment and Must have fervently implored the high heavens, saints and the Almighty God for emergency help. Pope Francis is much beloved throughout the world but this encounter certainly was abhorred and cringed by so many of the Pope's admirers. I am glad it is over.

Retrograde

(10,151 posts)
22. Melania's Catholic?
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:51 PM
May 2017

Does she know a rosary - gold or not - is a religious symbol and prayer aid, not a piece of jewelry?

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