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kentuck

(111,103 posts)
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:46 AM May 2017

Can the Republican Party stand for something different than Trump?

The problem is: They want their cake and eat it too. They can't have it both ways.

Only the Republican Party has the power to do something about this present on-coming crisis. Some may say it is already here? But they don't want to do anything about Trump so long as they think he is useful to them.

Every day we seem to inch closer and closer to a very challenging crisis. So long as they continue to prop up the king, they are complicit in everything that happens as a result of their support.

No one can predict the future, they say. But some can interpret the present. In a sense, the present is the future.

But, as Richard Clarke has pointed out in his book, those people are rare that can see these events coming. People tend to discount anything that does not have a precedent - that has never happened before. He called it "first occurrences". They are incredible to most people.

Is this where the Republican Party is at today? They do not know what to do because what we see happening is a "first occurrence". There is no strategy or playbook on how to handle it?

Perhaps this is a time that Democrats and Republicans should discuss the reality of the environment we are now in? Communication is essential to resolving any problem, I would think?

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Can the Republican Party stand for something different than Trump? (Original Post) kentuck May 2017 OP
They are professional antagonists. Whatever it is, they are against it. DetlefK May 2017 #1
Not very different. Orsino May 2017 #2
Republicans discarded communication as an option long ago. Kablooie May 2017 #3
That's not going to be easy... kentuck May 2017 #4

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. They are professional antagonists. Whatever it is, they are against it.
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:56 AM
May 2017

The are not "for" anything. Being "for" something means having ideas and hard work and being responsible. Hissing and booing from the sidelines is way easier and way more fun.

What happens if professional nay-sayers become the government?
You get an immigration-ban going nowhere.
You get a wall going nowhere.
You get a healthcare-bill going nowhere.
You get a budget going nowhere.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
2. Not very different.
Fri May 26, 2017, 10:06 AM
May 2017

The faux-macho, gun-posing-with, church-photo-op, king-of-castle Republicans are trained carefully by donor bucks to play their part. Trump, though he has never held a job in his life or done the religion or masculinity thing, is at least enough of a sexual predator to tick those boxes. And he has money, or appears to.

He is what the Republican party advocates for, whether they realize it or not: an idle, rich old man with no talent or knowledge who still wants the right to order us about.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
3. Republicans discarded communication as an option long ago.
Fri May 26, 2017, 10:09 AM
May 2017

They studiously refuse to deal with Democrats in any way.
Changing voters minds is the only thing Democrats can do.

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