Those creepy types who blame women for all their failures to begin with

and he apologized* like a good christian and we're all about forgiveness so stop with your liberal agenda and support the president in his time of crisis or get out of the country!


*(of course donnie's "apology" would actually be "regret" that the reporter provoked him and anger that the media is making such a scandal out of it, but the rank-and-file would just run with it....)

What are you talking about? Have you ever looked up the rates of domestic violence?

Click on the link and look carefully at the numbers:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/23/domestic-violence-statistics_n_5959776.html

However, it is still fairly acceptable among a disturbingly large segment of the population. If you think about the movies of the 40's and 50's, you see men slapping, cuffing, and throwing women around because they were being "petulant". That was only 60 or so years ago.

There has been a taboo against incest. There is a taboo against child molestation and hitting women is not celebrated but I think that attitude against it is driven by politics and legality more than some strong ethical inclination against it.

And being legal and being taboo are not mutually exclusive either. And there are things that aren't legal that aren't taboo.

"Domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women—more than car accidents, muggings, and rapes combined."

Just a few days ago in Washington, D.C., a bunch of Turkish thugs punched and kicked a female protester. Where is the outcry, if hitting a woman is so taboo?

Explain again how there is a taboo against hitting women?

References:

http://domesticviolencestatistics.org/domestic-violence-statistics/
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/26/us/turkey-protesters-attack-video-analysis.html

Because a person who hits a woman is seen as deplorable or (D)eplorable by everybody but the person doing the hitting.


Two Americans are murdered every hour:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/latest-crime-statistics-released

Just because something is prohibited doesn't mean it doesn't occur.

The number of homicides per year is 15,809, but the population of the U.S. is 318.9 million (2014 statistics). That means your probability of being murdered in one year is rougly 1 in 20,000. The average life expectancy in the U.S. being 78.8 years, your probability of being murdered is roughly 0.4%. (This number, in fact, includes death by domestic violence. 1,613 of the murders that took place in 2014 were females murdered by males in single-offender, single-victim incidents, and in 93% of the cases in which a relationship or lack of such could be determined, the woman knew her killer.)

In contrast, one in three women has been a victim of some form of physical violence by an intimate partner within their lifetime.

You cannot compare a 33% chance of being physically abused to a 0.4% chance of being murdered, and argue that abusing a woman is taboo the way murder is. Abusing women is all too common and accepted in this society. Just because you think something is wrong doesn't make it taboo.

References:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
http://www.vpc.org/studies/wmmw2016.pdf
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/23/domestic-violence-statistics_n_5959776.html

I said nothing about the relationship between illegality and taboo except to say that hitting women is not necessarily a taboo, although it is illegal and especially in domestic violence, laws have been changed in the last decades to give women more protections. What I am saying and what I think athena was saying is that hitting women is not as repulsive a thing to many men as we would like to believe.

Attitudes are changing but we aren't quite at taboo yet.

I think you might be surprised, and saddened by how not taboo it is though.

If a man hits a woman he's trash.

let alone the framing as "the most unshakeable taboo"

There are taboos out there that are much more widely held than not hitting women.

Women in general are smaller and weaker than men so a man pounding on a woman is frowned upon by society as a whole because of the disparity of force. Much like an adult beating child is frowned upon.

That doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

...is that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and wouldn't lose any votes.

His base is as deranged and demented as he is. Birds of a feather...

law 1: Beating a female of any age is legal two times a week.

Law 2: Any female of any age that has been abused in any way will not qualify for health insurance or life insurance.

Would that surprise any of you?