Winky and The Holy Bible, and also I'm 578 years old, so I'm slowing down a bit, see?

Except when you're looking forward to the end of the world...why be concerned with the trappings of men, when you know you'll be caught up in the sky when that trumpet blows!!!

on the need to oppose the left as a first principle that they prefer to believe they wouldn't do it.

Gianforte was especially angry with the press because they were reporting he was telling his voters he'd protect the healthcare coverage they currently have and also telling lobbyists he would have voted for the extreme house bill that would have gutted the ACA.

Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this–in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything–even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon “moderation” in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas.4 Their number is negligible and they are stupid.

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/letter-to-edgar-newton-eisenhower/

themselves extremely powerful. One bloc alone among a number of them, the Kochs', is believed to rival the Republican Party in influence. The so-called Freedom Caucus represents their wishes in Congress. They, of course, want to destroy these programs in their entirety, while virtually all of today's conservatives in congress also support some rollback anywhere from merely serious, permanent cutbacks to complete repeal.

Together, which they currently are, they are a redoubtable force. If they get control of SCOTUS, they will try to get compulsory taxation needed for most government programs, federal, state, and local, declared unconstitutional. Including even public education.

The only thing stopping the Koch caucus having its way, forcing extreme destruction, not just partial gutting, right now, of course, is 2018 and 2020.

Previously the big money (and influence) came from The Four Sisters - people group them differently but basically the finders of post Nixon/Reagan revolution rise of the new Republicans were
The Olins
Lynne and Harry Bradley
Coors family
Richard Melon Scaife

With big initial help from Rev. Moon (Falwell and the anti-gay agenda) and Phyllis Schlafly who almost single handily killed the Equal Rights Amendment



Really good article here
http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1244

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in its origin back to the influx of money by Pennsylvania's Richard Mellon Scaif. Not their first enemy, of course, but probably the first ultraconservative billionaire to invest huge money and organization to destroy Bill while he was still in Arkansas. Scaife was politically naïve, a redneck-level billionaire who only met Clinton toward the end of his life and was agreeably surprised to like him. Nevertheless, his evil influence lives on after his death through his foundations. In 2016 Judicial Watch boasted of having 5 Hillary "scandals" all ready to launch. Her defeat must have been a real blow to their "relevance" and cushy income stream. No doubt they'll come around.

And, of course, those others mentioned, the four, and others still, had long ago committed to change our national thinking far to the right. Thanks for that article, Underpants. I hadn't seen it before, but it is well supported by other reputable sources, including Jane Mayer.

These people will not learn until they stop receiving money and things they need to survive. They have been absolutely brainwashed by this "Get off your ass and work" mentality. Too stupid to see that socialized governments around the world are doing far better than they are. To the folks who think retirement is as easy as stuffing money into RRSPs and savings accounts: you have obviously never been hit with unexpected financial hardships, rising living costs that prevent you from saving, or divorce. Jesus Christ, how are pensioners supposed to plan for these things? How are people who grew up at a time when college was either not a possibility or a necessity supposed to reverse time and pick a life that would have made them more well-off? This is unspeakably cruel.

It's sad that their hard work will never pay off... and they've been too brainwashed to ever understand it. My dad survives on a Canada pension. If he didn't have that, he'd still be working... with high blood pressure, diabetes and 75 years old. What the fuck is wrong with people who think this is honourable?

SS needs to be INCREASED, not abolished

Some would peel away, maybe, but most of these people just don't care. They belong to a death-cult now. "What's the Matter With Kansas?" was written in 2004, a cautionary tale about this kind of backward thinking while the infrastructure collapses around you. That was 13 years ago, and things have NOT improved.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but this is unreal to watch.

Dare say,about half of the States residents rely on Social Security,SSDI,and other Governmental Subsides. Here is a real kicker,the County in which the city of Libby is located gets first dollar Health Care Coverage as a Carve Out by Max Baucus when the ACA was implemented.

Mike held up the whole ACA, while Grassley bamboozled him with the dream of his vote until Grassley was caught on an open mic, stating, "I'm doing my best to kill the ACA" I'm doing my part, How about you? At a Republican strategy meeting.


I see it all the time, the people got the best position of any deal, are always the bastards complain about it. The loudest.

Look at Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, complaining about Obama care when they have huge percentages of the population relying on it. Yes, I'm looking at you, Kathy Oller, you idiot. I'll say

Whilst they lay on the beach with an umbrella in their drink.

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Expects people to work until they're are 600 because Moses worked until he was that age.

Holy rollers who believe human beings rode around on dinosaurs since the beginning of time. 10,000 years ago, are free to believe it. But they have no place in government making decisions for us heretics that think the earth revolves around the sun. I'm sorry.

The man sold his software company to McAfee for 10,000,000 dollars and then sold his second computer company to Oracle $1.5 billion, his wife has another company. Something about education. He should be a out of touch Republican who doesn't care about the peasants.

Maybe Montanans deserve to lose their special carve out Medicare millions from the ACA.

"Be careful what you wish for" strikes again.

You don't expect a dog to be a rocket scientist, why expect a conservative to be liberal/compassionate?

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Gianforte is a believer in Young Earth creationism, the belief that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old. He donated $1.5 million to the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum in Glendive, Montana, a creationist museum which teaches visitors that evolution is false, the Earth is about 6,000-6,400 years old, that dinosaurs were on the Ark and that they likely died out 4,300 years ago during the flood described in the Book of Genesis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Gianforte

he's also wealthy, so it's easy for him to throw 'those people' off welfare.

he has a successful company.

what he is is a compartmentalized thinker, and selfish sophist.

do you know him? my brother does, and considers him a selfish, blinkered asshole. like most MT GOPers.

regardless of wealth or education.

if you disregard science, you may be a moron.!

And throw in social climber too

I doubt he really believes a single thing he proudly spouts

He's just looking to exploit an opportunity to get elected

This is not about facts. This is about propaganda, doctrine, feelings, emotions.

As long as they think that they personally will be better off, they are for it.
As long as they think that the impending suffering will hit somebody else, they are for it.
As long as the liberals/Democrats are for it, they are against it.

All your so-called "facts" and fancy book-learnin' mean shit to these people. And if you really want to rile them up against you, tell them you have scientific evidence to back up your case.

the main voting motivation of white conservatives.

MT is an iffy proposition at all times.

that I think that would increase his votes.

because Stigginit.

But the decorum prohibits me from saying it here.

But they don't want those Black Folk and Hispanics to get it too.

Usually I'm hesitant to call people dumb, but come on..

Are young earthers really any different from flat earthers? Both display a frightening amount of willful ignorance.

may be very short.

You'll only help him raise more money! Like healthcare, they think only brown people will lose their SS, not them!

twice in that short paragraph you quoted
we hear "he favors abolishing Social Security and forcing people to work until they die"
they hear "GOD opposes welfare, and I am a servant of GOD"
and they turn out to vote

The real problem is too many people lack critical thinking skills, listen to and believe allot of nonsense and then vote against their own interest.

Isaiah 14:3-4
3. "On the day the Lord gives you relief from your suffering and turmoil and from the harsh labor forced on you, 4. you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon: How the oppressor has come to an end! How his fury has ended!"


Micah 4:4
"Each of them will sit under his vine and under his fig tree, With no one to make them afraid, For the mouth of the LORD of hosts has spoken."

Sounds like at least the Jewish parts of the Bible endorse the idea of taking a rest from labors and enjoying life after financially establishing oneself. That kind of sounds like the modern idea of retirement to me.

nicely done

Or at least those two pages are stuck together.


I am reminded of the phrase: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"

Upton Sinclair

, what is chosen to disregard, is chosen by he who provides you substance.

I think you're right about those two paragraphs. They do sound like "secure" rest after the work is done.

of Trump fucking up and Democrats going into these communities and hearing what people have to say. I heard on CNN that Trump's approval rating is higher in this state (closer to 50%) than it is across the country. Instead of a quick fix in some of these rural areas, I think we have to realize that Trump is still popular in these areas and it will take longer to turn it around- which means we need to go into these areas and create a solid rural strategy.

I would also like to see Democrats go on the attack more. There was a while there were outside groups were constantly attacking Quist and there was silence from the national Dem groups in attacking Gianforte. We have to realize that while the "when they go, we go high" thing sounds nice, it doesn't work in politics. When they go low, we need to take them out at the knees. It's war.

Does that mean the criminal assaulter from Montana doesn't drive or ride in a car???

I'm so confused.

In fact, it talks about loving your neighbors and turning your swords into plows.

Guess it's time to get rid of that 2nd Amendment then, right Mr. Gianforte?

You really need to question how you got where you are in life.

and anything else you consider valuable.