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Julian Castro: Next POTUS will have to spend 80% of his/her time fixing big mess Trump already made (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2017 OP
I would absolutely love Julian to run against Greg Abbott MagickMuffin May 2017 #1
Cleaning the Augean stables comes to mind. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #2
Trumpy administration aftermath FM123 May 2017 #3
Isn't that always the case. Dems come in and clean up the Republican's messes. n/t Binkie The Clown May 2017 #4
Pretty much been true, especially since Reagan...nt Wounded Bear May 2017 #6
American Conservatism has betrayed the free world. Dawson Leery May 2017 #5
We need someone young and smart! Greybnk48 May 2017 #7
To a certain extent, Trump is a bell that cannot be unrung. BzaDem May 2017 #8
Julian is right flamingdem May 2017 #9
Trump won't drain the swamp but I am sure he has his eye yuiyoshida May 2017 #10
Par for the course... BigmanPigman May 2017 #11

FM123

(10,053 posts)
3. Trumpy administration aftermath
Sun May 28, 2017, 10:56 PM
May 2017

In the old tv show La Femme Nikita, there was a department in Section One called "Housekeeping" that was in charge of the disposing of bodies - they're going to need something like that after this administration.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
5. American Conservatism has betrayed the free world.
Sun May 28, 2017, 11:14 PM
May 2017

There is no difference between they and child killers such as Adam Lanza.
Putrid, depraved, thugs who do as they please without concern of repercussions.

BzaDem

(11,142 posts)
8. To a certain extent, Trump is a bell that cannot be unrung.
Mon May 29, 2017, 01:00 AM
May 2017

When Trump leaves office, immediate term relations with other countries will surely improve. But the fact will remain that enough of our electorate was willing to vote for him to hand him the presidency. That electorate isn't going anywhere.

Of course, a country's political system is not solely a function of its electorate. Mediating institutions matter. But if anything, faith in our institutions has been shattered even more than faith in our electorate.

The Republican party power-brokers had plenty of power to stop someone like Trump well before he was nominated. They did nothing but enable his rise.

After he was nominated, many Republican former executive branch officials tried to sound the warning, but they were dismissed by anyone with power to change the outcome.

After he was elected, Republicans in Congress had (and still have) tremendous leverage to shape the bounds of permissible conduct for Trump. A bipartisan Congress with a veto-proof majority wields tremendous power, and the threat of this power alone could significantly limit the damage Trump could do. Yet Trump is not remotely afraid, since he knows Republicans and Congress will let him get away with anything other than vetoing a large upward redistribution of wealth. He has already literally surpassed Nixon in his actions to obstruct justice (even Nixon knew he couldn't get away with firing the FBI director investigating Watergate), and Republicans in Congress step over each other to defend him.

The failure of our electorate, and our system's mediating institutions, has been made plain for all to see. This doesn't just say something about particular voters, or particular actors in our political system. It says something about the reliability and resiliency of our system as a whole. This failure will be taken into account by all other actors long after Trump leaves.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
9. Julian is right
Mon May 29, 2017, 01:02 AM
May 2017

The country is being destroyed, we're looking at Russiagate and that matters but so does the destruction.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
11. Par for the course...
Mon May 29, 2017, 01:12 AM
May 2017

Dems always have to spend their time cleaning up their messes and NEVER get credit for it. In fact, we get more shit on top of it for some reason. Why can't Americans remember anything longer than 3 days ago?

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