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rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
Mon May 29, 2017, 02:36 AM May 2017

NYT: Kushner tried to use WH counsel

And had to be told TO GET HIS OWN FUCKING LAWYER.

This is at the tail end of the article.


https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/28/us/kushner-trump-relationship-russia-investigation.html?referer=

But the Russia investigation has shaken Mr. Kushner, friends and associates say. When news broke last week, Mr. Kushner and his wife at first discussed getting a statement denying the report issued through the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II — who told them that it was not a good precedent to set and that it was a job for a personal attorney.

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NYT: Kushner tried to use WH counsel (Original Post) rainbow4321 May 2017 OP
Is it wrong to laugh at these assholes? world wide wally May 2017 #1
Of Course Not! Leith May 2017 #2
Laughing, mocking, jeering and the like are all appropriate. nt jrthin May 2017 #29
Excellent. It makes you wonder how can they sleep at OnDoutside May 2017 #3
I have said the same thing to myself a thousand times. BigmanPigman May 2017 #9
Some of them definitely are, but it's unlikely all of them are. OnDoutside May 2017 #14
They are professional hustlers, they sleep just fine liberal N proud May 2017 #16
sociopaths don't feel shame or remorse. They just don't wanna get caught doing illegal stuff. Amaryllis May 2017 #31
I may have missed it, but Kushner never issued that denial. SunSeeker May 2017 #4
Cuz he wants one working on OUR DIME rainbow4321 May 2017 #6
He assigned others in White House to do it. Kablooie May 2017 #10
That is not him denying it. I have yet to even hear his voice. SunSeeker May 2017 #19
Jamie Gorelick's his lawyer DeminPennswoods May 2017 #17
If and when he testifies, he will have amnesia. SunSeeker May 2017 #20
He did have a lawyer issue a statement... lastlib May 2017 #23
Really? Note to them: blue-wave May 2017 #5
I think I know more about White House operations than those clowns just from watching The West Wing. Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #7
These lowlifes don't know how to do anything Mr. Evil May 2017 #8
Krooked Kushner.... czarjak May 2017 #11
If he uses his own lawyer, he's gonna get a bill Warpy May 2017 #12
No worry- they can dip into that $100,000,000 kickback their slush-fund foundation just received. NBachers May 2017 #13
Yep. Make them use it. dalton99a May 2017 #21
Oh, yeah not fooled May 2017 #15
Kind of surprised McGahn refused DeminPennswoods May 2017 #18
No kidding rainbow4321 May 2017 #22
This comes under the "You can't make this shit up" folder NastyRiffraff May 2017 #24
The federal government is not one of your businesses, Jared, and Ivanka's daddy didn't buy it... Hekate May 2017 #25
we didn't elect him, hire him, ask for him bigtree May 2017 #26
It has been said gibraltar72 May 2017 #27
Glad to see journalists aren't taking the whole gibraltar72 May 2017 #28
I think that McGahn's response was the equivalent of "Daddy-in-law says you are on your own." MedusaX May 2017 #30

OnDoutside

(19,961 posts)
3. Excellent. It makes you wonder how can they sleep at
Mon May 29, 2017, 02:55 AM
May 2017

night, knowing all the stuff you got up to with the Russians over the last year, has been probably logged, recorded or even videod ? Let's face it, what Kushner did, and pretty much all the rest of them, was for filthy money, but it's still treason. Flynn probably did it for revenge and money.

If it was you or me, and we had done something like this, we would have that sinking feeling of being ruined, jailedand shamed. Some of them must surely be feeling that, even a little bit ?

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
9. I have said the same thing to myself a thousand times.
Mon May 29, 2017, 03:14 AM
May 2017

I wouldn't be able to function. Yet again, I'm not a sociopath and that's the big difference. I hope they go broke paying their legal fees. Clinton almost was when he had to pay his lawyers for the impeachment BS.

OnDoutside

(19,961 posts)
14. Some of them definitely are, but it's unlikely all of them are.
Mon May 29, 2017, 03:35 AM
May 2017

And for those ones you'd have to think they are looking for exit strategies or self protection.

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
16. They are professional hustlers, they sleep just fine
Mon May 29, 2017, 05:27 AM
May 2017

It's everyone they screw that loses sleep. Like us!

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
4. I may have missed it, but Kushner never issued that denial.
Mon May 29, 2017, 02:58 AM
May 2017

Could it be he's having trouble finding a lawyer to do it?

He already has teams of lawyers working for him because of his businesses and penchant for suiting tenants in his rental properties. Odd that he couldn't get one of the scumbag lawyers currently working for him to put out that denial.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
6. Cuz he wants one working on OUR DIME
Mon May 29, 2017, 03:02 AM
May 2017

And not his. Using the WH lawyer means WE would be paying for the lawyer....using his own means he has to pay.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
10. He assigned others in White House to do it.
Mon May 29, 2017, 03:22 AM
May 2017

Ny times posted the denials.
Wa post didn't because they said they were obviously Kishinev plants.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
17. Jamie Gorelick's his lawyer
Mon May 29, 2017, 07:17 AM
May 2017

She issued a statement saying Kusher has offered to testify to the Senate Intel Cmte and also to talk to the FBI, but neither entity has contacted him. It was the classic non-denial.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
20. If and when he testifies, he will have amnesia.
Mon May 29, 2017, 11:36 AM
May 2017

His excuse for not reporting meetings with Kysliak is that he didn't "remember" those meetings. Again, not a denial.

lastlib

(23,244 posts)
23. He did have a lawyer issue a statement...
Mon May 29, 2017, 01:08 PM
May 2017

...saying that he had "no recollection" of those "phone calls"* "as described"....Apologies to weasels, but that is about as weasely a statement as anybody had made since reagan & poppy denied knowing about the Iran-Contra plot.

(*Nobody's talking about phone calls here--we're talking about f--king MEETINGS with the Russian ambassador, FFS! How the hell do you forget those meetings without psychotropic drugs??)

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
5. Really? Note to them:
Mon May 29, 2017, 03:01 AM
May 2017

The administration of the corporation known as the United States of America should not ever be left to novices.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
7. I think I know more about White House operations than those clowns just from watching The West Wing.
Mon May 29, 2017, 03:10 AM
May 2017

Oliver Platt and The Night Court guy say you need to hire your own personal attorney.

Duh.

Mr. Evil

(2,845 posts)
8. These lowlifes don't know how to do anything
Mon May 29, 2017, 03:13 AM
May 2017

except to come up with a newer scheme to bilk, scam, fleece or swindle people out of money. Their lives are consumed only with the accumulation of more money any way, from anyone, from anywhere possible. They haven't a clue on how to enjoy life. You'll never see them tailgating at a football game. You'll never see them screaming for joy on a roller coaster. They are only seen at events that they believe they are supposed to be seen at. Whether they actually hate them or not. What a shitty existence. Hopefully soon, they'll have to weather a really shitty existence... in prison.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
12. If he uses his own lawyer, he's gonna get a bill
Mon May 29, 2017, 03:27 AM
May 2017

The WH counsel is free.

Yes, he had a lawyer. He was just trying to chisel us to avoid paying him.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
15. Oh, yeah
Mon May 29, 2017, 04:03 AM
May 2017

as pointed out above, these grifters assume they can milk the public for whatever they want. And, remember, this is "Game of Thrones for Morons", as pointed out by Foreign Policy magazine. Don't assume they can reason their way out of a paper bag.

Also, the great Charlie Pierce wrote a piece recently on jarhead as a landlord. Clearly the guy is a sociopath who has no compunction extracting whatever he can from others. And, anyone who thinks iwanna is nicer--the fact that she married this cold-blooded predator shows she's no better than the rest of her thieving clan.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
24. This comes under the "You can't make this shit up" folder
Mon May 29, 2017, 01:14 PM
May 2017

As if that folder wasn't overstuffed already. How could he NOT know you can't use a WH counsel as your personal lawyer? Of course, Jared may have known that, but assumed he could get away with it.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
25. The federal government is not one of your businesses, Jared, and Ivanka's daddy didn't buy it...
Mon May 29, 2017, 02:40 PM
May 2017

...like one of his hotels. The employees of the US federal government, Jared, swear to uphold the US Constitution, they don't take an oath of fealty to the latest Generalissimo who seizes power. Not yet they don't.

And to quote my all-time favorite sign from the airport protests: Not Today, Motherfucker.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
26. we didn't elect him, hire him, ask for him
Mon May 29, 2017, 02:44 PM
May 2017

...why the fuck would he assume we should pay for him?

Because he's a grifter, like the rest of the family of grifters.

gibraltar72

(7,506 posts)
27. It has been said
Mon May 29, 2017, 02:50 PM
May 2017

WH counsel is there to protect the office not the person occupying the chair. Thus individuals need their own counsel.

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