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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLouise Mensch is Backing and Filling as Fast as Ever She Can
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on her blog today. Don't bother visiting unless you've been following all of her "reporting" over the past few weeks. It will be really confusing if that is not the case. Even if you have been following her pronouncements, news blivets and speculations, today's post will still be hard to decipher. But you can begin right here:
https://patribotics.blog/
bresue
(1,007 posts)I do like that she has improved her blogging by writing
'This article is a theory, based on informed speculation.' on everyone of her blogs. To me, she is acknowledging her reports need to be taken with a grain of salt.
And on another post, she started it as 'This piece is an op-ed. It is not a report. It is based on informed speculation and chatter, but it is not a report, so Ill keep it short. I wouldnt call it a theory, either. My theoretical pieces have been analysis of the facts as I saw them.'
I believe all the democrats who have been calling her out on her reports and conspiracies are making a change.
Demit
(11,238 posts)Rep. Green called for impeachment in the House. He was interviewed by Amy Goodman last week, and he said he's holding off on introducing a resolution. As I understand it, that would be when the matter gets referred to the Judiciary Commitee, once there is a formal resolution, and there hasn't been.
I think she's confusing a case for impeachment (where facts are still being gathered) with the process of impeachment (which is nowhere near beginning). I think she's deliberately doing so. This blog post is hopelessly bogged down with vague terminology on the one hand and superfluous but sensational-sounding details, like the Atty General being placed under heavier than usual guard, on the other. I don't follow her every blog post, but from the samples I've seen here on DU, that's her style. Vague and sensationalistic. Also a little testy, now that she's being criticized.
eShirl
(18,494 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)Making a speech on the house floor in which you suggest the president should be impeached no more starts a "case of impeachment" than standing up on the house floor and declaring that the minimum wage should be $15 starts the process for enacting a bill.
Demit
(11,238 posts)Thus Mensch's dramatic "case" for impeachment would have started then. I think people should be parsing her wordsher slippery languagea lot more carefully, and maybe they will do from here on out.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)to her earlier nonsense. Sort of, anyhow. That's worthy of a visit, I think.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)I hadn't checked her twitter feed yet, and this is the first I heard of it. Many thanks.
I's quite interesting speculation. I've always wondered how Schneiderman might be integrated into the overall #FuckTrump effort. Her perspective on the issue is very helpful to me.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)First, she claims NY AG Schneiderman "took his case" to the FISA court. But the FISA court's role is to issue surveillance warrants to federal authorities, not state authorities. Schneiderman would know that. He also would know that the FISA court doesn't "hear cases" and doesn't compile evidence -- again, something Schneiderman would know. The fruits of a surveillance warrant issued by FISA might be used by a US Attorney in a grand jury proceeding, but that's not what she described happening.
Second, she continues to make the nonsensical argument that Rep. Green's speech on the House floor calling for Trump's impeachment initiated in some formal way the impeachment process. She even claims it led to the matter being referred to the House Judiciary Committee. Total bullshit. A speech is nothing but a speech. It doesn't trigger anything. If Green had introduced articles of impeachment or a resolution or motion to commence an impeachment inquiry -- something that the House could vote on -- that could and would have been referred to the Judiciary Committee. But a speech? Nope. There would be a record of the "matter" going to the House Judiciary Committee in response to Green's speech if that's what had happened. There is no record. Instead what the record shows is that the Speaker Pro Tem responded to Green's speech as follows: "Members are reminded to refrain from engaging in personalities toward the President, such as accusations that he committed an impeachable offense." https://www.congress.gov/crec/2017/05/17/CREC-2017-05-17-house.pdf
Does that sound like an impeachment case has been commenced in the House?
Finally, although she has now corrected it, an earlier version of her blog claimed that the FISA Court and the federal district court for the Eastern District of Virginia met in the same building. Wrong. FISA meets in the E. Barrett Prettyman building Washington DC; the EDVA meets in the Albert Bryan building in Alexandria VA.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)at once. Really...
moonscape
(4,673 posts)sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)No divisive group attacks or something like that. SOME of us read her blog. We know it is not written in stone. When the Mansch haters come out, it is nothing but a slug fest towards those of us dumb enough to read her blog. Never mind the fact that she has had several items she was right about, you guys dislike her and that is all that matters.
Do carry on though. It keeps you busy and divides the dems.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)tweets. If you read it otherwise, you're reading something into what I wrote that was not intended.
However, you can alert on my posts if you wish. If enough people believe that they violate DU's community standards, they will vote to remove the post.
That is your privilege as a DU member, as much as it is my privilege to compose posts on this website.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)But I have had my posts deleted for the most ridiculous reasons.
DeltaLitProf
(769 posts)We're simply told she is not to be trusted.
onenote
(42,714 posts)It appears that you didn't.
lovemydogs
(575 posts)At first I thought the whole argument was kind of silly until I was reading some tweets by Malcom Nance and he mentioned her and said not to believe her.
That made me wonder because I would tend believe Nance as being a straight up kind of guy and not knowing Mensch except for what I've read on here, somewhat suspect.
brettdale
(12,382 posts)Is she still saying that Arrests might happen tomorrow, like she did around two weeks ago.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)I'm asking because I trust your judgment.