"Tens of millions of people would flock to Texas in just a few weeks"? Dude, people would be vacating Texas in droves. Nobody would be left but a few thousand Cheeto-stained nitwits who have no idea how to survive outside their parents' basements.

but you said it in a much funnier way!

I saw a thread there yesterday where someone had posted a picture of a snake whose head was just covered with ticks, asking for metaphors. (I found it because I was looking for where that picture had come from.) It took 29 posts for someone to finally say the obvious wingnut answer of Obama and the welfare recipients. Before that, the only thing they could come up with was Mitt Romney and his pack of RINOs! They have totally lost it.

"Job creators." Back in the day, we called them "robber barons" or "feudal lords."

I have no problem with any Confederate state seceding. Who's stopping them?

These dumb shits are second to none in moranity.

Tens of millions of people would flock to Texas, a state that can ALREADY barely support its current population of twenty-five million. Texas, a notoriously conservative state with a fiscal policy that revolves around NOT tending public infrastructure like roads, sanitation, education, and public safety.

In the middle of a drought.

In other words...

He wants Texas to become a solitary nation on the world stage - a solitary state politically and culturally hostile to every other nation in the Western Hemisphere. While it is "finding its feet" on the world stage, it will - apparently - be suffering one of the worst refugee humanitarian crises seen outside of the African Sahel. And unless it abandons its own reasons for seceding, Texas will become a poverty-riddled third-world nation whose economy is based primarily on maquiladoras - sweatshops - ringed by cardboard slums.

Most likely, he just has no fucking idea what the hell he's talking about, which is par for the course, I guess.

And I got news for that freeper idjit-THE OIL AIN'T THERE NO MORE.

"Defeatest liberal thinking," I guess

I remember back in the 1990's there was a chain e-mail out stating X number of reasons Texas should secede. Under one of those reasons, it stated that Texas would get a fat chunk of NASA, "all" of the oil refineries, and a whole bunch of military bases. It apparently never occurred to the imbecile who wrote it that the US government would pull out all personnel and equipment from NASA and all military bases. Why the hell would they leave any of it with a now-foreign entity? Especially one that became foreign by leaving the union.

I guess all those oil refineries throughout the rest of the country are hallucinations, too.

I don't think he's thought this plan through...

Slaves for the Mexican salt mines I say.

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wants to go it on their own, it should be encouraged and a plan should be created so that those that want to secede can do so.

Give pubs and their followers the former confederacy, most live their already and most right thinking liberals and progressive have nothing to do with it already so it would not be missed anyway.

signed a Liberal in TX.

I know I will have NOTHING to do with the place, EVER.

because we have to. What great Blue state are you from?

are you in prison or is someone forcing you to stay and physically preventing you from leaving?

says I have to live here because of joint custody agreement with my ex. Again, what great Blue State are you from?

It is gonna be an interesting six months here, I can tell.

also U.S. citizens, be brought to the U.S. (I remember some flak a while back about a NON-CITIZEN being fought over, even though his daddy was still alive in his home country, and people were trying to get him to be able to stay with people who were bribing him with trips to Disney and candy and such, so there's precedent ...)

Make it a federal case ...

but also lived in CT, NY, ME, NH, MD and a bunch of other places including down south

but he has the right do prevent me from moving more than two counties from him, according to our court order. I'd have to go in front of a judge to fight it.

I understand exactly what you are saying.

Child custody/visitation can prevent even leaving the state on a day trip without consent from the other parent or courts.

HINT: The number in parentheses right after the poster's name has meaning.

in third grade. Perhaps you didn't?

Not that I'm For Texas seceding. Just wouldnt lift a finger to stop them.

to emigrate freely (a la the partition between India and Pakistan) as a condition of allowing secession. (And any left-leaning white person should be allowed to leave too

have nothing to do with it?

That makes absolutely no sense.

In fact, to be a liberal in a red state is to have ovaries made of steel.

that complain the Federal Government didn't do enough to help with their wildfires last year.

Always the hand out, never the hand up.

Who is the traitor that told the freepers that Canada has Univesal health care, gun laws, gay marriage and no Fox news? See what you did, now they want Texas.

take away the money the federal government(us taxpayers from northern states)sends texas. subtract those two things from the their budget texas would be a third world country.

to maintain just a minimum standard of highways, hospitals, etc.
Would businesses leave? I would if it were me.
I would hope the US would slap some huge tariffs on them right away.

Study history. Realize this is a bad idea. Your fathers tried Texan sovereignty once before. Remember the Alamo! Remember that Santa Ana wiped them out like gnats and the only reason Texans don't speak Spanish is because Sam Houston totally-capitulated in your feud with the US government in exchange for US guns, US support and US troops so he could mount a defense of Texas.

My uncle, who lived in Dallas, used to tell me, "If the Alamo had had a back door, there never would have been a Texas!"

Santa Ana may have won at the Alamo, but it was a pyrrhic victory because he lost 2 to 3 times as many soldiers than the Texians did. Texas went on to defeat Santa Ana at San Jacinto a month and a half later without any help from Uncle Sam, and in fact Martin van Buren refused to admit Texas to the Union when it applied for statehood in 1837 because of concerns about starting a war with Mexico. It wasn't until 1845 that the United States, under the presidency of the expansionist James K. Polk, admitted Texas to the Union. The next year, as van Buren had feared, war did break out with Mexico.

Santa Ana spent 2 weeks defeating about a 185 men and it cost him the war.

if they secede because they'll still have the military bases and NASA.

Now, there's a blast from the past! It never ceases to amaze me that anybody would believe that NASA and the US military would leave any of its equipment and personnel to a country that just seceded from it.

Bad idea. We Texans are undergoing one of our periodic droughts. Even if our right-wing Republican nut-hatch state legislature was given the authority to secede by the federal government, we just don't have enough water to supply the influx of tens of millions of right-wing anti-environmentalist right-wing idiots.

Furthermore, considering what a number our dear governor Rick Perry and his fellow Republicans are doing on our state finances, if Texas were granted independence, in just a couple of years we'd be a sorry an international financial basket case as those countries we read about on the front page and in newspaper and internet business sections.

I'd go one further. If Texas were granted independence, the currently-entrenched state party's antics would make Greece look like a model of fiscal restraint, prudence, and solvency.

and their cash dollars that they hoarded are no longer "welcome" ...

But before you do, do something to reroute Highway 54 around your new country so those of us who drive between Tucumari and Wichita won't have to pass through that cesspool of a "feedlot" in your panhandle that's guaranteed to make a vegan out of the staunchest carnivore.

1,000s of heads of cattle standing in their own piss and shit and not a blade of grass in sight...

You can smell it miles before you see it!

Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you.

All that unnatural orange powder must cause brain damage. What would really happen if Texas seceded (assuming it were able to do so peaceably)? A whole lot of people would get up and leave, for starters, because they'd realize that their US money and benefits would be worthless; they'd want to move their US dollars out of the Republic of Texas (ROT) right away. And an awful lot of them probably would want to remain US citizens anyhow and not need a passport to visit Uncle Fred in Oklahoma. If they were Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid recipients they'd lose those benefits if they stayed. Presumably the US would want to be compensated for any federally-owned real estate in the ROT (Big Bend National Park, for example. And I think the Alamo is also federal property). It would take out its military bases and personnel and remove the Johnson Space Center. There would be no more subsidies for farmers, universities, or small businesses.

Corporations would take their bank accounts out of ROT to preserve their assets, and the banks themselves would probably move out. Mr. Freeper assumes the oil companies would remain ROT assets, obviously not understanding that these are multinational organizations with no particular allegiance to Texas except to the extent there's oil there. While the wells and refineries would remain, the ownership and control of those operations would be based elsewhere, since ROT would soon become unstable and very poor. It could not support the 100 million new immigrants (which is 1/3 of the entire US population) Mr. Freeper expects; it could not even support its current population of 25 million (or however many are left after the smart people leave). With a government run by an assortment of libertarian nitwits and religious fanatics, no industry, no jobs and no foundation for economic stability, ROT would become a third-world hellhole in only a few years.

Maybe he can turn it around

and Texas having just cut itself off from all federal aid.


Ya know, at that point I would be in favor of a fence along our southern boarder.

A month of their no government - government policies - and they're completely broke and run by crazy religious fundamentalists - they'll come crawling.

rain there anymore......

And the whole food thing is likewise going to be a bit problematic because it's hard to grow food or raise livestock with NO WATER.

Maybe Texans can invent the replicator a la Star Trek and use petroleum as feedstock AND for power.

100 million will move to Texas... ok, ok sure. How is this guy thinking the state will house that many refugees? Let's use the correct term here.

I know, I know, I am asking an obvious question... but actually having played in the real world with refugees... free clue to our freeper...word wide there are 40 million, as I type... and that is a nightmare for the agencies that actually deal with it.

I now, separated from reality at birth...

In order to be readmitted in the Union an agreement was signed to never succeed again. Apparently those who want to succeed studied from pre Civil War history books. Next they must not read current information or they don't understand the population is in some counties less than half is caucasian, current requirement to be a neo-Nazi. We don't have the smartest governor but we still have some sane folks here. Also dumb voters are voting in dumb folks here.

And Texans would have no problem with being overrun with freepers.